Daffy's SE

Chat to do with your MX5/Miata/Eunos Garage Ride(s).

Moderators: timk, Stu, zombie, Andrew, The American, Lokiel, -alex, miata, StanTheMan, greenMachine, ManiacLachy, Daffy

User avatar
StanTheMan
Forum legend
Posts: 6824
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Balgowlah

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby StanTheMan » Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:25 am

LOL....Some real honesty around here.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Satans Ride called F33nix the resurrected NA6

User avatar
Daffy
Forum legend
Posts: 1366
Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:23 pm
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Southern Gold Coast QLD

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby Daffy » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:11 pm

StanTheMan wrote:LOL....Some real honesty around here.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Ha- cheap duty free tequila STM :twisted:

Meanwhile (while sober) The inevitable has happened, a sudden rattle in a can sound from underneath and the gearbox is out and off for a rebuild! At this stage we know the bearings are gone, fingers crossed that there is nothing more too damaged. Hats off to it though at how well the SE gearbox is taking the power output. A repair summery to follow.........
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
StanTheMan wrote:sweet, Its not all about huge hp.

viewtopic.php?t=73496

User avatar
JBT
Speed Racer
Posts: 7946
Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NC
Location: Brisbane

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby JBT » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:38 pm

Ooooh, that oil looks a bit ugly Daffy. :cry:
Image

User avatar
Okibi
Speed Racer
Posts: 10899
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Contact:

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby Okibi » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:50 am

Fingers crossed not too expensive!
If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.

User avatar
StanTheMan
Forum legend
Posts: 6824
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Balgowlah

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby StanTheMan » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:24 am

Is it a standard 6 speed or somthing extra special?

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Satans Ride called F33nix the resurrected NA6

User avatar
greenMachine
Forum Guru
Posts: 4053
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Sports car paradise - Canberra
Contact:

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby greenMachine » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:52 am

Stan, the SE box is supposed to be stronger, though not by much, than the stock 6 speed. Different heat treatment, or perhaps shotpeening, of the gears I believe.

Daffy, that will be an expensive exercise, they are generally considered an uneconomic repair proposition. I look forward to hearing about your take on that.

:mrgreen:
I never met a horsepower I didn't like (thanks bwob)

Build thread

NB SE - gone to the dark side (and loving it 8) )

User avatar
Lokiel
Forum legend
Posts: 4126
Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 2:39 pm
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Brisbania

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby Lokiel » Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:02 am

BMW 6-speed an option?
Don't worry about dying, worry about not living!
Garage Thread: http://www.mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=76716

kiezon
Fast Driver
Posts: 134
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:28 pm
Vehicle: NB8B

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby kiezon » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:50 am

Lokiel wrote:BMW 6-speed an option?


+1 for this and the KMiata adapter with getrag diff - might have to look into this myself when I eventually reach my 250kw goal

User avatar
Daffy
Forum legend
Posts: 1366
Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:23 pm
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Southern Gold Coast QLD

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby Daffy » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:49 pm

Ok, so a few days to assess the Problem Child’s gearbox issue.
We took out the box, thankfully at the first slightest sound of trouble, so the damage is very minimal. The internal’s that need replacement have been identified and (thanks to Magpie) replacement bits have been secured so I can now rebuild the gearbox. :DIY:
All the gearbox internals have been looked at, and seems the SE did not come with shot peened gears as thought (according to the fella that has the box right now, he says there is no evidence that he can see that makes this box any different to the standard 6 speed- I’m ASSUMING at this stage that shot peening may have only been a feature for Japan and US MSM versions- just speculation on my part at this stage), that being the case, a review and pricing of South Oz Neat gearbox shot peening was made!
So the 6 speed is ready to repair, strengthen and re-install...........

BUT, after discussion with my beautiful other half with regards to eliminating any future gearbox troubles, factoring in total cost, availability and longevity (as well as future power increases beyond the 400rwhp/300kw mark), consulting was had with mechanic Daz, JBT and Magpie (and a couple of other forum members I’ve spilt the beans to today, Stan the man and Tricky Trev), it seems very very likely that the Problem Child’s power train is going more Frankenstein- so enter Kmiata’s BMW E46 6-speed transmission upgrade kit. Nothing set in concrete yet (still putting price and other factors together.)
Stay tuned, more to come shortly! :mrgreen:
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
StanTheMan wrote:sweet, Its not all about huge hp.

viewtopic.php?t=73496

User avatar
StanTheMan
Forum legend
Posts: 6824
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Balgowlah

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby StanTheMan » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:30 am

I have no clue what shot peening looks like once its done on the gears.

But it would be interesting to go to some of he US forums & talk about this. Maybe we can all learn something a little.
Satans Ride called F33nix the resurrected NA6

User avatar
ManiacLachy
Forum Guru
Posts: 3266
Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:35 pm
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Brisbane

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby ManiacLachy » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:49 am

Image

But I'll appreciate you pioneering the solution for Australian cars!

I think nobody's really tried to find out if the MSM/SE gear box actually is shot-peened, I think it was probably a little wishful thinking propagated on forums, I doubt it's ever been true.

User avatar
StanTheMan
Forum legend
Posts: 6824
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Balgowlah

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby StanTheMan » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:57 am

its kind of funny. all these peeps who upgraded to 6 speed & getting a SE box paying premium....
Satans Ride called F33nix the resurrected NA6

User avatar
bruce
Speed Racer
Posts: 7707
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA8 - Turbo
Location: Victoria
Contact:

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby bruce » Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:20 pm

2 speed auto is unbreakable.

User avatar
StanTheMan
Forum legend
Posts: 6824
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Balgowlah

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby StanTheMan » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:20 pm

In Daffys case those speeds would be fast & faster....

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Satans Ride called F33nix the resurrected NA6

User avatar
greenMachine
Forum Guru
Posts: 4053
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Sports car paradise - Canberra
Contact:

Re: Daffy's SE

Postby greenMachine » Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:33 pm

Daffy, that is interesting! And here I was thinking that I might sell the spare NB 6 speeder to help fund an SE box, I might put that idea on ice now ... :|

I will follow your progress with the K-Miata conversion with great interest.

:mrgreen:
I never met a horsepower I didn't like (thanks bwob)

Build thread

NB SE - gone to the dark side (and loving it 8) )


Return to “MX5 Garage Chat”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests