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Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby 93_Clubman » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:30 am

According to this Carsales.com ad <https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Mazda-MX-5-2002/SSE-AD-5132100/?Cr=0> for a 2002 Mazda MX-5 SP only 75 survive from 100: 'RARE, 1 of 100 ever made...only 75 survive'. There have been threads on here some years ago re written off SPs, but didn't think 25% were stat write offs. Maybe things have changed!

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby lucmor444 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:25 am

No idea on the number still running but the 2 SPs on carsales have been listed now for quite a few months. Either the sellers aren't willing to drop their prices to get a sale or most obviously it appears no buyers are interested at the prices being asked.

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby NitroDann » Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:45 am

I like to think that I have devalued them.

Perhaps not, but I like to think so.

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby StanTheMan » Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:07 pm

Im sure you get some credit :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby Tezzax5 » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:10 pm

I doubt if anyone knows the answer to how many are left.
Not many SP owners bother using the forum.
Perhaps Stan you might get an answer from the state MX-5 branches about the number of member cars that are SP’s.
That will only give you club numbers thou.
What about the rest of us that don’t belong to any of the clubs?( There’s a truck load of us that just enjoy our cars for what they are)

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby 93_Clubman » Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:57 pm

Unfortunately the 'SP Write-Off Tally' thread no longer exists: viewtopic.php?f=18&t=29919
Might have archived it, so will have a look when the chance arises, but reckon it will be 5 or so years out of date.

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby StillIC » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:15 pm

I can vouch for one SP. I might be able to get the VIN for a register if need be. RS2000 probably could too, and maybe NitroDann?

NitroDann wrote:I like to think that I have devalued them.....

I am sure you and Mazda have. But only you and other aftermarket turbocharger installers have devalued the SE also.
WP:1.12.492 SMPN:1.16.403 SMPS:1.05.473 SMPGP:1.53.256 SMPB:2.22.181

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby Okibi » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:57 pm

Enough to make any SP owner cry

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If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby 93_Clubman » Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:48 am

Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:23 pm
MX5-SP wrote:INFORMATION:
1. Silver SP (Gold Coast). Ran off road into trees near Canungra in
July 2002, but fixed at a reputed cost of approximately $30K.
Whereabouts unknown. Current condition unknown.
2. Silver SP (Gold Coast). Flipped in March 2005, and sold as a
\"repairable write-off\". Sold to ACME 'Motors'(?), Gympie, QLD
through Pickles Auctions. 'Fixed-up' and resold. Thought to be on
NSW Central Coast somewhere in a shed. Current condition unknown.
3. Silver SP (Perth). Stolen and burnt out in Dec 2007. Total and
utter write-off. Dead & buried.
4. [unsubstantiated] SP stacked into a light pole in Melbourne...
reputedly 500m from showroom. Date of accident unknown. Car unknown.
Damage unknown. Whereabouts unknown. Current condition unknown.
Could be same car as item 6.
5. [unsubstantiated] Red SP (Sydney?). Written-off in accident at
Raymond Terrace. Date of accident unknown. Car unknown. Damage
unknown. Whereabouts unknown. Current condition unknown.
6. Silver SP (Melbourne). Statutory Write-off, subsequently purchase
by Formulite. Date unknown. Whereabouts unknown. Current condition
unknown.
TALLY:
1 Confirmed Dead
1 Believed dead (silver SP - Melbourne)
2 Confirmed Substantial Repairs
2 Unsubstantiated, but thought to be severely damaged
94 Others
100 Total SPs produced.


Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:04 pm
Caedrus wrote:
MX5-SP wrote: 2. Silver SP (Gold Coast). Flipped in March 2005, and sold as a
\"repairable write-off\". Sold to ACME 'Motors'(?), Gympie, QLD
through Pickles Auctions. 'Fixed-up' and resold. Thought to be on
NSW Central Coast somewhere in a shed. Current condition unknown.

UPDATE:
The SP in question is currently living in a shed near Dungog. I have dríven the vehicle in question. The vehicle is registerable, drivable, but most likely suitable only for someone looking to (1) turn it into a race vehicle; or (2) do an extensive repair. The car doesn't feel right, as though the body was not straightened well. This is an amateur's opinion.

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby 93_Clubman » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:37 am

Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:00 pm
Garry wrote:Garry - Brilliant Black - purchased December 2002 (PP 003) - murdered by a bus July 2015

The wreck was purchased at auction by Boyracer.

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby Daz » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:53 am

Carsales is loaded with price tags representing how much it would take for owners to part with them. In most cases this doesn't align with what other people want to pay.

NitroDann wrote:I like to think that I have devalued them.


I am pretty sure after market cars only take money off their owners. Check the for sale section, plenty of 10K cars with 10K in mods selling for 10K. Dont get me wrong, I recently LS3 swapped a midyear Corvette and its a better car in every way, I just don't kid myself that its worth more than original one.

Speaking of original ones, do you think the SP at Mazda HQ counts as one of the 25% dead ?

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Silver SP - PSS9, 1:10:58

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby NitroDann » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:04 am

I think youre misrepresenting my point.

People never used to cross shop SP/SE and NB turbo. Now they do.

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby Daz » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:25 am

NitroDann wrote:I think youre misrepresenting my point.

People never used to cross shop SP/SE and NB turbo. Now they do.

Dann


I owned an NB before I bought my SP and cross shopped every aftermarket option available along with everything else in the segment. On other cars I also have many experiences going the other route which produced good cars worth no more than the original I started with.

In any case I don't think there is any evidence SP's have devalued at all in the last 5 years. You surely cant ask 30k for one, however a decent one sold recently for 22k. Lets say instead you took a 12K NB8B and spent 10k on it... you could build a great car but it would be worth (maybe) 15, while the SP is still worth 22. What about an original Low Km NA6 recently selling over 20K recently and people hunting the forum looking for them.... if you fit a turbo kit to a car like that you would actually halve its value.

Its just a matter of confusing what makes a car good and what makes it valuable. People are out there paying $1M+ for a GTHO, but I can build a Falcon 500 to literally run rings around it for 50 or less.... none of that devalues the original car, in fact all the imitation probably only makes them more valuable.
Silver SP - PSS9, 1:10:58

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby bruce » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:25 pm

Daz. A blast from the past!

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Re: Apparently only 75% of SPs survive

Postby 93_Clubman » Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:03 am

Daz wrote:Image

If the car is correct, that NA6 must be an 1993 model JM0NA3062 revision, given the Mazda front bar badge logo - either that, or 1993 onward badge has been fitted to an 1989-1992 model.


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