Blackbird Fabworx Engine Mounts

BlackbirdFabworx · Postby **BlackbirdFabworx** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:22 pm

Almost as funny as the Qantas commercials on the radio here :lol:

G'day mates!

KevGoat · Postby **KevGoat** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:25 pm

Whenever I see Hoge's old ads, reminds me of the great, individual identity this country use to have, the identity that made me want to become a proud Ozzy citizen. Bit of a shame the country's lost that identity over time ....

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StanTheMan · Postby **StanTheMan** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:43 pm

KevGoat wrote:Whenever I see Hoge's old ads, reminds me of the great, individual identity this country use to have, the identity that made me want to become a proud Ozzy citizen. Bit of a shame the country's lost that identity over time ....

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I thought we just regained it last weekend

StanTheMan · Postby **StanTheMan** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:56 pm

Incase youve been hiding under a rock.....with a brown snakese & a funnel Web in your shoe....
Ohhb wait.....thats not the most dangerous animal
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LnA4DGoihak

KevGoat · Postby **KevGoat** » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:01 pm

Haha !! Yeah saw the ad during the US NFL grand final thingy - great ad!! ... I still stand though, we've lost our identity ...

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Magpie · Postby **Magpie** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:10 pm

Did some measurements today. I have a NB motor in a NA6 running Racing Beats headers, so keep this in context. You will need to check the clearance if you have a different setup. The drop mounts will sit the sump level with the subframe, however other parts may foul.

Hard to get it in perspective. This was with the level perpendicular to the centreline, resting on the subframe.

Put the level along the centreline of the car. With the level on the front sub frame and on the butterfly brace there looks like there will be about 10mm clearance. I swear that from where I was laying the caliper was in line with the top of the level...

I would guess that there is about 10mm clearance.
https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5B234FC6

Postby **Okibi** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:27 am

For those who are wondering who "Blackbird" are, Moti has been a strong contributor to the MX-5 / Miata community for many years.

https://www.miata.net/motm/2005/moti.html

BlackbirdFabworx · Postby **BlackbirdFabworx** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:57 am

Copy-paste of my response to Mark's FB post, just to clarify of lowering -
"We got almost 1/2" lower with the drop mounts compared to new factory mounts, so if yours are older and sagged 1/4" down already, you're only going to get another 1/4" lower, so I wouldn't worry too much at this point about the measurements there.
The sticky point is typically the header / downpipe, make sure you measure there.
The drop mounts set the bottom of the pan flush with the subframe -

"

A pic with the RB header -

Clearance from a depowered rack -

BlackbirdFabworx · Postby **BlackbirdFabworx** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:00 am

Okibi wrote:For those who are wondering who "Blackbird" are, Moti has been a strong contributor to the MX-5 / Miata community for many years.

https://www.miata.net/motm/2005/moti.html

Wow, talk about bringing stuff back from the dead!
I completely forgot that this ever happened

Been a part of the Miata community since 2000, more actively so since 2001 when I started tracking my Miata...

Postby **NitroDann** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:02 am

Hi Moti,

Do you sell the hotside mount alone in the 'big bush' street edition?

Dann

BlackbirdFabworx · Postby **BlackbirdFabworx** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:09 am

I do not, nor do I feel that this is a good solution.
No offense of course, all in good spirit :beer:

Postby **NitroDann** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:25 am

Id love to know your thoughts if you're comfortable sharing.

Dann

BlackbirdFabworx · Postby **BlackbirdFabworx** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:37 am

Sorry mate, my thought process with regards to product development and reasoning isn't something I discuss on any forums.

Postby **NitroDann** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:33 pm

That's your call of course, I respect that.

Well, with that said, Im pretty good with the "replace the one that breaks with one that doesn't" theory.

Dann

Magpie · Postby **Magpie** » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:58 am

Looking at if the Blackbird engine mounts have made a difference. Thinking on a comment from The American about gear stick movement as an indication I had a look at recent videos from Morgan Park before and after the engine mount change. Morgan Park is a rough track so this will show both low and high speed velocities.
I really should get these videos onto You Tube for the people who do not like using Faceplant...

July 2017 - there is movement mainly in the gear stick when accelerating/lift off
https://www.facebook.com/mx5na6/videos/582293065491830/?t=65

July 2018 - the movement on acceleration/lift off is hardly even noticeable anymore.
https://www.facebook.com/teamracepak/videos/2134961560121097/

The seat of the pants tells me that yes there is an improvement in the car as the lap times are getting faster. In addition the faster laps are feeling a lot easier to achieve. Could be argued that this is more driver related than machine...