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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby speed » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:46 am

I'm sure you've got yhis covered but I'd bag the motor when moving it inside and yeah something on the floor in your work area. Just be careful not to step in any spillage so as to not track it anywhere is in your place.

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby Cus » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:59 am

You guys make valid points, I should do it on the back porch instead!

Primarily speed's "moving it inside" part. I hadn't actually thought about the logistics of getting the motor into - and back out of - the house, and while there are not a lot of steps, there are way more than I I want to carry a motor up!

Too much excitement make Cus something-something... :D

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby Cus » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:10 pm

SSK Installed! It is indeed, Short. I'm off to ballarat this arvo, I'll provide a clueless-fool's review, probably tomorrow.

The old shift boots were pretty stuffed, the lower was actually in two parts. The upper wasn't far off it. I took before/after videos, I'll put them on the inter-tubes at some point for anyone that's interested.

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby Cus » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:07 am

It took me 2 of the 4 holiday weeks to actually get the motor back to the designated building location (back porch) where I quickly discovered that I had no way of getting the flywheel bolts undone. I could spin the crank over, or tip the motor over, but not actually loosen the bolts....

So I called Matt the Toolman, and said "When are you back at work?" and he said "Next Monday!" ... so yesterday I took myself off to bendigo and got a collection of tools: 2x rattle guns (big, little), drill, grinder, batteries, impact socket set, ratchet spanners (because ratchet spanners) digital calipers and feeler gauges. I only wanted a rattle gun, but the 4 tool set was only double the price of one, and the other things are useful, and I got them all for as close to wholesale as Matt could do without getting fired. Thanks Matt!

So, I got the flywheel off in approximately 30 seconds, and came to the next road block: of all the places to buy bolts in maryborough, only one has M12 bolts, but they're gal coated farmer-bolts, not high tensile, and the wrong thread pitch.

Sooo.... I'm not any closer to getting the motor mounted to the engine stand than I was 3 weeks ago, but I've got a rattle gun for each hand now! :lol:

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby Cus » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:56 pm

Who wants pictures?

I want pictures!

They're not very good pictures, but here they are!

Front:
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Rear:
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Starting Disassembly, everything is going into ziplock bags with words written on them ... even the clutch disc... :lol:
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Everything is oily!
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Old altinator belt is pretty cactus:
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Intake seems a wee bit oily.
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Some orange fluid in the cooland mixer pipe:
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The little milwuakee rattle gun is a champion. The big one also is a champion, but way overkill. Once I'm up to removing the crank bolt, I'll let y'all know if the little one is up to the task.
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The EGR pipe clearly had a leak. If I can find some aftermarket headers for not many dollars, it'll be "fixed" :D
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I switched to the DSLR for acouple of shots.
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Is this "Normal" wear for the cams?
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More grime / Exhaust port
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So, it's fairly obvious this isn't going to be done before I go back to work on monday, but you know, who cares?
Certainly not me, it'll be done eventually, as long as it's before the "tick" that seems to be getting worse in the 1.6 turns into a "clunk" :lol:

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby speed » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:29 am

Glad you're getting stuck in :)
Did you make that bench/engine stand? Looks really good.. and solid.
What rattle guns did you end up getting?

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby StanTheMan » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:13 am

How many ks?

My inakes are also very oily. But i fivured it had something to do with tbe anti polution gear from the exsaust side.
The same for the cylinders....all vey filthy
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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby ManiacLachy » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:12 am

I think you should use the DSLR for all photos from now on!

Good on you for cracking on with this. I would love to attempt something like this, maybe one day.

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby Cus » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:44 am

speed: The bench/stand (and the table next to it) came from school last year, they were woodwork projects that kids didn't take home after school was out. It even has a penis drawn on it, so you know it's authentic! My original plan was to put a glass top on it to fill in the hole and then put some LED lights underneath it for some mood lighting.... then it turned out that the engine fit on it almost perfectly, so it's an engine stand until I get the engine on the actual engine stand. (I keep ending up with the wrong bolts, and the closest place I can get them is an hour away, third time's a charm!)

Big rattle gun: https://www.milwaukeetools.com.au/power-tools/cordless/m18fhiwf12-0
Little rattle gun: https://www.milwaukeetools.com.au/power-tools/cordless/m18fiwf12-0

stan: No idea how many k's, it came out of a car Jan was trying to sell down in Melbourne, but apparently "nobody wanted it" so it became parts. I should have asked.... apparently it "ran great" though. The timing belt looks pretty good, and the water pump feels a lot less loosey-goosey than the one I took out of the 1.6 when I did that many moons ago, and the beading on the flywheel is pretty shagged, so I'm guessing somewhere in the low-to-mid 100,000 k's. Because I'm clearly a professional and can determine these things from a poke and a prod.

I *think* the oily intake is from the PCV valve being on the way out ... but also, it might just be why people install catch cans.

lachy: I was using the gopro to document what-went-where as I dismantled things, I figured it's designed to hang off the front of a mountain bike that's probably going to run into a tree, it can handle a little bit of grease :lol:

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby speed » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:38 pm

Cus, thanks for the link. I have the big one so curious to know how the little one's perform.

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby Cus » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:01 pm

Doing a pre-clean, and the top of the IM got a bit out of hand....

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Petrol, 3M "ScotchBrite" pads, and elbow grease.

Well, wrist grease. Of which it seems I needed more, I've done myself a mischief and now my wrist is killing me.

I'm pretty happy with it though. Watching vid-yas on the internet, nobody ever says "use a scouring pad", they all say "use a scotchbrite pad" ... so i got two packets of 4. I've cut one in half. they're amazing. you can even rinse them out in petrol and they're like new, kinda.

Also, Ansell "Dermo Plus" chemical-cleaning gloves are a lot tougher than the multi-packs of disposable gloves. and you can wash them off with petrol and wipe them with a rag, and they don't randomly rip leaving you with one black thumb when you go to work the next day... :lol:

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby StanTheMan » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:16 am

What is it YOU cleaned?
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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby Cus » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:19 pm

44,559km, and 22 months of daily driving, and my MCAs look like this:

Rear:
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Fronts:
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All of the oil has come from inside the shocks.

They're out of warranty in 3 weeks, so they're going back monday for a rebuild to the "new and improved" seals. Here's hoping they last ... somewhat longer.

Bonus picture: Rake. The original stance.
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Bonus Picture #2: No lift kits needed 'round these parts, stock NB suspension on an NA is all you need. Incidentially, the old OEM suspension of >100,000kms and >10years of age are in better condition than the MCAs :frown:
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Going back to 3kg/2kg spring from the 9kg/6kg springs is incredibly ... soft.

*wibble-wobbles away*

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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby smy0003 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:22 pm

Yikes, with the amount of fanboy-ism that surrounds MCA coils, you'd think they'd last a bit longer. My BC's were a few years old when I got them and I ran them for two years, not a drop of oil on the shock body.
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Re: Cus' NA6

Postby Cus » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:48 pm

I'll admit, I was fairly smitten with the MCAs when I got them, I found them to perform really well.

But their inability to withstand one whole warranty period is rather disheartening, even if I am OK with the length of said warranty period.

If I was buying a high compression, low tolerance race engine to spend most of it's days at or near redline, I'd expect a short lifespan - I can't help but think I've ended up with the coilover equivalent: excellent performance, as long as you keep rebuilding them...not that I've actually done anything terribly extreme with them. Admittedly, quite a few twisty roads, but mostly just a shit-ton of plain-jane commuting.

We'll see when they come back. MCA use new internals now, which may or may not be a reaction to the fact that their original design needed some tweaks - I've seen less "leaky MCA" posts on the internet as of late - but I don't know if that's because they've stopped leaking, or if they've been swapped out for other brands. BCs and Ohlins seem to be getting more noise made about them locally these days.

I figured I'd spend my dollars in Australia and support Australian Business. If the rebuilt shocks age as badly as these ones, those dollars will be getting spent entirely offshore next time around - you can get EDC-enabled japanese items for 2/3rds of the price.....


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