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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby GR124 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:46 am

i weighed the BP-4W recently. I need to confirm But I think it was
180KG
engine had oil in it
included the Gearbox (with no oil)

I can confirm tonight If I remember :roll:
engine is sitting there so I can measure if you like

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby 93_Clubman » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:50 am

Safe trip STM

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby StanTheMan » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:13 am

GR124 wrote:i weighed the BP-4W recently. I need to confirm But I think it was
180KG
engine had oil in it
included the Gearbox (with no oil)

I can confirm tonight If I remember :roll:
engine is sitting there so I can measure if you like


Its all good.

Ive organuised a engine crane to remove it out of the car on Sunday night. My wife & son are certainly not strong enough. Or It will be too crowded.

I need one anyway to remove & replace the engine into patchy anyway....as well as lifting it onto a engine stand. I just went & bought one.
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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby hks_kansei » Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:13 pm

GR124 wrote:i weighed the BP-4W recently. I need to confirm But I think it was
180KG
engine had oil in it
included the Gearbox (with no oil)

I can confirm tonight If I remember :roll:
engine is sitting there so I can measure if you like


That would be about right.

Gearboxes are pretty light, maybe 20kg or so?

The difficulty with the engine is that there's nowhere to get a decent handhold without ripping your hand to pieces, hence bring some rope to tie onto bits to make a handle from.
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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby Mr Morlock » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:47 pm

well looks like its settled but its not a good idea to carry such a heavy dead weight in the rear of small car. Amongst other things apart from it likely being overloaded how does it get secured i.e. ratchet strapped to what and a sudden braking action or quick change of direction can easily shift the load. Utes , trays, trailers all make it so much easier and safe.

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby project.r.racing » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:15 pm

120kg is hardly an unsafe weight to carry in the back of a car. 120kg is less than 2 adult males.

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby hks_kansei » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:27 pm

As above, 120/160 kg is a similar weight to having a couple of passengers in the back seat.

As for securing it, just pushing it against the rear seat backs and then using a ratchet strap to hold it down will be fine.

Otherwise, pretty sure a rented bunnings trailer is under $50 for 24hours.
But for something small like a civic, I'd be mor confident with the load being in the car, than a trailer.
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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby GR124 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:10 am

GR124 wrote:i weighed the BP-4W recently. I need to confirm But I think it was
180KG
engine had oil in it
included the Gearbox (with no oil)

I can confirm tonight If I remember :roll:
engine is sitting there so I can measure if you like


I can confirm 181 KG as described above. Good luck with it StanTheMan

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby Mr Morlock » Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:02 am

For your consideration- look up the vehicles towing capacity and the ball weight max usually 5% or !0%. The calculation will reveal if an engine of X kg exceeds the makers design.

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby 93_Clubman » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:50 pm

Mr Morlock wrote:For your consideration

Believe he's on his way as PU was interstate.

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby project.r.racing » Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:41 pm

Mr Morlock wrote:For your consideration- look up the vehicles towing capacity and the ball weight max usually 5% or !0%. The calculation will reveal if an engine of X kg exceeds the makers design.
But the engine is not being placed on top of a tongue and ball. It is being placed inside a passenger cabin that is design to accommodate 5 passengers and luggage.

The only thing to consider is your automotive engineering expertise is nil. So therefore your advice should not be taken into consideration. A weight place over or between the wheels has nothing to do the the leverage weight placed on the rearmost part of a car.

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby StanTheMan » Sat Sep 09, 2017 8:57 pm

chaps.
Mr Mortlock is concened. and i would probably say the same thing to my Plater son if he was doing this journey.

of course it going to feel a bit different. and no kamakazi maneuvers..... cause i would expect it to feel different.

not as though i havent done tbis before. although it is a first for me doing it for 1000 ks

my only concern is between here & the border. QLD drivers are nuts. If traffic between Brissie is anything like it was today. ill stick to 1 lane only stick to tbe limit & keep a safe distance. nothing heroics.

Once back safe over tbe border......i will relax


LOL.....fucken hell. QLD Drivers.....so agro and blatantly oblivious and protectionist terretory at tbe same time.
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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby StanTheMan » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:07 am

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby Okibi » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:10 am

Well done STM!
If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.

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Re: engine dimentions BP-4W

Postby StanTheMan » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:03 am

I need to apologize to all our QLD members in saying all QLD Drivers are nuts.

I figurerd that Hwy between Gold Coast & Brisbane must be one of the busiest roads in Australia. Its also Pretty dammed wide in sections. Is it 6 lanes in one direction? But its chockers.
Anyway after hitting NSW roads on the way back It was smooth going until Sydney. You know people moving over & so on. But getting back to sydney. I realized. Although QLD drivers are mad. Sydney drivers are on farking Crack and Ice when they are driving. LOL.

You're not all bad QLD'ers.

The chap I visited converts cars to Electric cars. Some very nice work. He's also currently converting a NB8A to electric.
Her has some kind of Skyline. Built for racing. He recons 0-100 in about 2.5 seconds. Hes on the verge of having it engineered. Its not far off.

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