So,
after the talk of shiny copper shift knobs, I got to playing with a lump of brass and the lathe
It's 50mm round and 60mm tall, Drilled the first 20mm out to 16mm, the next 30mm is tapped M10x1.25 so should sit nicely down on the shifter.
Ended up with this
I really didn't think about the weight before I started, but is 780g too heavy for a shift knob?
Too Heavy?
Moderators: timk, Stu, zombie, Andrew, -alex, miata
- Ross
- Fast Driver
- Posts: 174
- Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:32 am
- Vehicle: NA6
- Location: Melbourne Eastern Suburbs
Too Heavy?
Cheers
Ross
1990 BRG V-Special, NB Koni sport with King springs, MS-03's
Ross
1990 BRG V-Special, NB Koni sport with King springs, MS-03's
-
- Fast Driver
- Posts: 429
- Joined: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:55 am
- Vehicle: 10AE - Turbo
- Location: Sydney
Re: Too Heavy?
Good work but I think you would loose too feel with that much weight. May as well give it a go though.
10AE
WP 1:04.7 SMSP GP 1:43.0 South 1:00.8 North 1:09.8
WP 1:04.7 SMSP GP 1:43.0 South 1:00.8 North 1:09.8
- Lokiel
- Forum legend
- Posts: 4126
- Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 2:39 pm
- Vehicle: NB SE
- Location: Brisbania
Re: Too Heavy?
- definitely goes against the "adding lightness" philosophy but would look awesome in a dark green MX5 with full-on retro-interior or steam-punk interior
Don't worry about dying, worry about not living!
Garage Thread: http://www.mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=76716
Garage Thread: http://www.mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=76716
- hks_kansei
- Speed Racer
- Posts: 6154
- Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:43 am
- Vehicle: NB8A
- Location: Victoria
Re: Too Heavy?
I'd be concerned about it causing wear to the detents and lower bush.
Since when it's in anything other than neutral it's going to have some side loads constantly (like holding your hand on the knob always)
In saying that, I prefer lighter knobs in the mx, I find even the oem one to be a bit weighty for my taste.
Since when it's in anything other than neutral it's going to have some side loads constantly (like holding your hand on the knob always)
In saying that, I prefer lighter knobs in the mx, I find even the oem one to be a bit weighty for my taste.
1999 Mazda MX5 - 1989 Honda CT110 (for sale) - 1994 Mazda 626 wagon (GF's)
-
- Forum Guru
- Posts: 1525
- Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:23 pm
- Vehicle: NB8B - Turbo
- Location: Brisbane, Qld. Previously Perth WA
- Contact:
Re: Too Heavy?
Might mean a quicker death to the shifter tip bush
- Alex 2550
- Racing Driver
- Posts: 561
- Joined: Mon May 11, 2015 12:01 pm
- Vehicle: NA8
- Location: Far south coast NSW
Re: Too Heavy?
hey mate you will be fine, check out the modiction anvil and Blox shift knobs all around 500gr, and been used for years. mine is 487gr stainless.
you can flick the knob into gear with little effort due to inertia and i love it, i think it would be great with a short shift kit that sometimes get a little notchy. yes it adds weight but i believe with something that weight you will never miss a gear so that makes up for the 500gr, one missed gear would cost more time.
it possibly would wear the bush quicker but even on the U.S forums no one can answer that, ill brass bush my shifter turret next time it gets a rebuild but to date no ill effects to speak of.
my gear knob is similar size to factory and i tapped the shaft lower to get it down to standard height, the factory NA8 was about 200gr i think but don't quote me on it.
oh and its a nice piece of kit you have ended up with there
you can flick the knob into gear with little effort due to inertia and i love it, i think it would be great with a short shift kit that sometimes get a little notchy. yes it adds weight but i believe with something that weight you will never miss a gear so that makes up for the 500gr, one missed gear would cost more time.
it possibly would wear the bush quicker but even on the U.S forums no one can answer that, ill brass bush my shifter turret next time it gets a rebuild but to date no ill effects to speak of.
my gear knob is similar size to factory and i tapped the shaft lower to get it down to standard height, the factory NA8 was about 200gr i think but don't quote me on it.
oh and its a nice piece of kit you have ended up with there
Retro NA8
build viewtopic.php?f=57&t=71923
build viewtopic.php?f=57&t=71923
- KevGoat
- Speed Racer
- Posts: 3940
- Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:48 pm
- Vehicle: NB SE
- Location: Down South, Adelaide, SA
Re: Too Heavy?
Only way really is to try it. I have a Blox about 450 odd grams and used a Skunk before that around similar weight and both felt great and never caused wear issues. Not sure that the extra weight in yours may be too much, but no way of telling unless try it. I think as mentioned may take too much feel away. Be an interesting exercise.
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
- Ross
- Fast Driver
- Posts: 174
- Joined: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:32 am
- Vehicle: NA6
- Location: Melbourne Eastern Suburbs
Re: Too Heavy?
I think 780g is too much
Just put it back in the lathe and brought it down to 530g.
Hopefully it looks good in the Tan interior
Just put it back in the lathe and brought it down to 530g.
Hopefully it looks good in the Tan interior
Cheers
Ross
1990 BRG V-Special, NB Koni sport with King springs, MS-03's
Ross
1990 BRG V-Special, NB Koni sport with King springs, MS-03's
- ManiacLachy
- Forum Guru
- Posts: 3266
- Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:35 pm
- Vehicle: NB SE
- Location: Brisbane
Re: Too Heavy?
I had a Blox knob, at ~400g it was great, though it wasn't counter sunk which is why I replaced it. I think at 780g it would be too heavy, the 580g or so you've brought it down sounds better, though still kinda heavy. I guess put it in the car and see how it goes.
Either way, I think it's pretty awesome you did this!
Either way, I think it's pretty awesome you did this!
-
- Fast Driver
- Posts: 272
- Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:53 pm
- Vehicle: NB SE
Re: Too Heavy?
I'm yet to weigh my knob
- Lokiel
- Forum legend
- Posts: 4126
- Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 2:39 pm
- Vehicle: NB SE
- Location: Brisbania
Re: Too Heavy?
wasp47 wrote:I'm yet to weigh my knob
- that took nearly 24 hours, must be a slow day!
Don't worry about dying, worry about not living!
Garage Thread: http://www.mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=76716
Garage Thread: http://www.mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=76716
- Alex 2550
- Racing Driver
- Posts: 561
- Joined: Mon May 11, 2015 12:01 pm
- Vehicle: NA8
- Location: Far south coast NSW
Re: Too Heavy?
yer i saw that and thought.....no i'll leave that be hahaha.
i think being closser to the 500gr mark will be safe, as i have a fetish for retro MX's i do hunt around for ideas ect fairly often and i saw a car somewhere with a pitcrew front but lots of brass and copper in the engine bay and the interior, it looked fantastic.
i think being closser to the 500gr mark will be safe, as i have a fetish for retro MX's i do hunt around for ideas ect fairly often and i saw a car somewhere with a pitcrew front but lots of brass and copper in the engine bay and the interior, it looked fantastic.
Retro NA8
build viewtopic.php?f=57&t=71923
build viewtopic.php?f=57&t=71923
- LiteIsRite
- Fast Driver
- Posts: 424
- Joined: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:16 pm
- Vehicle: NA6
- Location: Northern Rivers NSW
Re: Too Heavy?
Ross wrote:I think 780g is too much
Just put it back in the lathe and brought it down to 530g.
Hopefully it looks good in the Tan interior
FWIW, my stainless steel custom knob is very comfortable at 450g - with no obvious ill effects on the shifter shift bushing after 3 years of use.
”How you get there is the worthier part.” - Shepherd Book, Firefly
"Cherry" - Classic Red 1990 NA6 [sold]
"Cherry" - Classic Red 1990 NA6 [sold]
Return to “MX5 Body, Paint, Interior & Trim”
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 94 guests