How many people r going to buy the new model ND

[RBH58]

Gee the Mazda sales people are pretty casual looking and no Mazda socks either.

That is actually me LOL

[zero00]

For my money there are only 2 real sports cars on that list for a reasonable price i.e. affordable list excluding hot hatches- the 86/BRZ and the ND. Anyone notice the Mustang earned a poor 2 star ANCAP rating- its the image of course.

Nice comment and totally agree MM
http://www.caradvice.com.au/518491/mazd ... omparison/

[RBH58]

For my money there are only 2 real sports cars on that list for a reasonable price i.e. affordable list excluding hot hatches- the 86/BRZ and the ND. Anyone notice the Mustang earned a poor 2 star ANCAP rating- its the image of course.

Nice comment and totally agree MM
http://www.caradvice.com.au/518491/mazd ... omparison/

This is a pretty spot on review...having just traded a BRZ on an RF

[Wivvix]

I haven't dríven an RF yet, but frankly I don't find that review/comparison compelling at all.

From my count, virtually all of the criticisms made of the RF apply equally to the soft top; ride (body roll), clutch and gearbox, 118kw 2L engine, scuttle shake/NVH etc. Yet in the ND ST reviews, those all feature as defining characteristics, points of difference if you will, not as weak points. This begs the question, what was the author's view of the ND ST? I wouldn't be surprised if their view was equally dim of the ND ST, which marks a strong contrast with the wider automotive press...

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mazda/mi ... omparison/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLtw2z_mZ6w
http://driving.ca/subaru/reviews/compar ... subaru-brz
http://www.motoring.com.au/mazda-mx-5-v ... son-54199/

So is this author objective? I think the concluding remarks are the most telling; the author appeals to the idea that the ST's open-air experience is materially superior and is a legitimate reason to pick the ND ST over a BRZ, despite this not factoring into their review at all. This is far from a coherent logical argument and smacks of a last ditch attempt to justify a conclusion that isn't supported by reasoning.

Choir, meet preacher.

[Wivvix]

I haven't dríven an RF yet, but frankly I don't find that review/comparison compelling at all.

From my count, virtually all of the criticisms made of the RF apply equally to the soft top; ride (body roll), clutch and gearbox, 118kw 2L engine, scuttle shake/NVH etc. Yet in the ND ST reviews, those all feature as defining characteristics, points of difference if you will, not as weak points. This begs the question, what was the author's view of the ND ST? I wouldn't be surprised if their view was equally dim of the ND ST, which marks a strong contrast with the wider automotive press...

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mazda/mi ... omparison/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLtw2z_mZ6w
http://driving.ca/subaru/reviews/compar ... subaru-brz
http://www.motoring.com.au/mazda-mx-5-v ... son-54199/

So is this author objective? I think the concluding remarks are the most telling; the author appeals to the idea that the ST's open-air experience is materially superior and is a legitimate reason to pick the ND ST over a BRZ, despite this not factoring into their review at all. This is far from a coherent logical argument and smacks of a last ditch attempt to justify a conclusion that isn't supported by reasoning.

Choir, meet preacher.

Also for those interested, here's what the mx-5 community has to say about the RF's open top experience. Also, a post on this very subject from someone that is a true motorsport enthusiast.

https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=632437
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php ... stcount=20

[speed]

That is actually me LOL

I think Mr M was just making a funny.
The car looks great



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[speed]

ND 1577 (2016) has sold better than all previous MX-5 generations in their first full calendar year: NA 1446 (1990), NB 1310 (1998), NC 1468 (2006). The arrival of the RF should boost sales into 2017 too.

So prior to the ND, the order of model for the most sold per calendar year is NC, NA and then NB.

What was the total amount per each model sold in Australia?

ND is currently at 2609 and I'm guessing will be produced up to or around the year 2022.

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[RBH58]

Most comparisons are with the BRZ/GT86 wearing its OE "Prius" rubber. Put decent grippy rubber on a BRZ/GT86 and it will match the MX5 for grip. It's the best performance mod you can make to a BRZ/GT86.

[93_Clubman]

What was the total amount per each model sold in Australia?

Guran may have more accurate numbers, but following is approx (due to totaling by year, ie some NA, NB & NC sold in 1998, 2005 & 2015 respectively):
1989-1997 NA=4816
1998-2004 NB=6347
2005-2014 NC=5751
2015-end Jan 2017 ND=2609

NA breakdown, again approx as some NA8 sold in 1993:
1989-1993 NA6=3768
1994-1997 NA8=1048

[RBH58]

One thing that no test I've seen mentions is that the MX5's pathetic lack of storage is is further reduced with the RF. The centre bin is half the depth. The bin behind the driver's seat is half the depth and basically useless. The one behind the passenger seat is gone completely. There is NOWHERE onboard to store even the Handbook/Logbook! I've managed to find a spot for the garage remote...just (because there is nowhere to clip it to the skinny sun visor. Why the hell they couldn't give it a glovebox is completely beyond me. Come on Mazda...you need some storage space. Nowhere onboard to keep the Handbook? Seriously? That's weight saving taken too far.

[speed]

What was the total amount per each model sold in Australia?

Guran may have more accurate numbers, but following is approx (due to totaling by year, ie some NA, NB & NC sold in 1998, 2005 & 2015 respectively):
1989-1997 NA=4816
1998-2004 NB=6347
2005-2014 NC=5751
2015-end Jan 2017 ND=2609

NA breakdown, again approx as some NA8 sold in 1993:
1989-1993 NA6=3768
1994-1997 NA8=1048

Thanks 93.

I'm surprised at how many NC's were sold. Out of all the mx5's I see on the road, I come across NC's the least.

Others have also said that they were a flop due to a much higher price but the numbers say otherwise.

Looks like the ND's will outsell all previous models.


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[davekmoore]

Could you put the handbook in the glovebox, which is behind and between the seats?

[RBH58]

Could you put the handbook in the glovebox, which is behind and between the seats?

That's what I'm saying, It's half the depth of the one on the ragtop. It won't fit in there!

[RBH58]

And for those wondering about the RF drop on Eibach's...about 25mm

[MikeVictor]

. Nowhere onboard to keep the Handbook? Seriously? That's weight saving taken too far.

Gram strategy! No need to lug around that phonebook of a manual. If you really need a copy keep a PDF version on your phone.