lolmx5's NA8

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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby lolmx5 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 6:44 pm

pepejesus wrote:I would strongly recommend keeping the plastic undertray in tact - although it might work for Daffy, it is generally accepted that removing the undertray will hurt airflow through the radiator and compromise cooling.

Lots of good info on the MX5 cooling system and its weaknesses: http://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep-75/miata-cooling-system-thread-79930/

A stock street car with a stock good condition cooling system will be fine on the street. On the track, especially if you have A/C, you may start to push the limits of the stock cooling system, even with an otherwise stock car.


Yea was planing on keeping it on, I've hear a lot of good thing about the effectiveness of the undertray. My car does have AC (not currently working ahah) besides the thicker code of the se is there something else I could do to help cooling the engine.


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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby pepejesus » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:04 pm

The two big things would be:

1. Coolant re-route
2. Ducting air to the radiator

The link to the miataturbo cooling thread will explain why the re-route is needed. Installing a re-route can be a bit of a pain with the engine in the car.

Probably the best 'bang for you buck' thing you can do is ducting air through the nose, sealing off all of the spaces where the air can go around or under the radiator. You'll need to fabricate this yourself, but search around this forum and at miataturbo.net, plenty of good examples for inspiration.

If it's just a street car I would suggest just keeping the cooling system stock but in good condition and it should be fine. You'll need to replace the radiator soon and you can probably get a larger/more efficient rad than stock for about the same price or only a little more, so it makes sense to do that.
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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby smy0003 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 7:11 pm

I can't recomend a reroute on an otherwise stock car.
It's a bugger to get in and can be hard to route the super long top rad hose.

Go with the SE rad, stock undertray and never worry about it :)

Big core rad and reroute on a stock car (like me) leads to a tiny engine with a whole lot of coolant to warm up.

So basically what pepe said.
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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby lolmx5 » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:11 pm

No worries, se rad it is, silicon hoes kit and new thermostat is what I'm gonna do for now. Thanks guys for all your input


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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby Nevyn72 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:12 am

Not sure how you're going to go fitting an SE radiator, designed for an NB, to your NA..... :|
While they both use the BP engine, I believe the NA had different mounting points, so you may need to do some careful measuring and fabrication work.

The good news is that the SE radiator has the same size top and bottom tanks, it's just the core that went from 16mm to 27mm.
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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby Daffy » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:26 am

My bad too for forgetting to mention that we had the water pump/cooled water re routed to the rear of the block as well a "chimney vents" put in to assist with the cooling- ps great link pepejesus, much food for thought for future track days! :wink:
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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby lolmx5 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:30 am

ok so small little update on parts list i have going at the moment, i try to use genuine parts where i can but heres what ive got so far

ImageUntitled by lol mx5, on Flickr

1x Gates water pump (Aftermarket)
4x Genuine spark plugs
1x Genuine oil filter
1x Genuine front crank seal (B3C7-10-602A)
2x Genuine cam seals (FS05-10-602A)
1x Genuine Water pump gasket (engine side) (B6BF-15-116)
1x Genuine Water pump gasket (B621-15-165)
1x Genuine cooling pipe o-ring (E301-15-287)
1x Genuine sump plug (B6S7-10-404A)
7x Genuine sump plug washers (0956-41-800)
1x Genuine PVC seal (E301-13-338A)
1x Genuine oil cap gasket (ZJ01-10-252)
1x Genuine cam cover gasket (BP05-10-235C)
1x Genuine tensioner spring (B660-12-711C)
1x Genuine timing belt (B6S7-12-SF0A)

Soon to get or on order

CAS O-ring (Aftermarket) picking up tomorrow
Both tensioner pulleys (Aftermarket) picking up tomorrow
Genuine crank bolt (Ordered)
Genuine crank key (Ordered)
Genuine crank pulley (Ordered)
(most bolt that car coming off will be replaced with new genuine bolts) (Ordered)
2x genuine mazda keys (FD0176201) (Ordered)
Radiator (undecided)
silicon hose kit (undecided)

also got my hands on genuine roadster floor mats so as soon as they arrive they will be going and and also a JDM 180km Cluster :) (Shipped should be here soon)

Image1505110017911s0 by lol mx5, on Flickr

Image1701004001947s0 by lol mx5, on Flickr

more updates to come when more happens

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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby smy0003 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:06 pm

Did you use croober?
Mind sharing how it was?
I'm in the process of using buyee for the first time. So far so good.

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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby lolmx5 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:14 pm

Croooober is awesome, can buy parts from venders such as up garage in Japan and other venders, they don't charge a lot of the fees that other places like buyer charge all they charge is item cost and shipping. So I found to be a lot cheaper then most places.

Only thing is they don't have a big selection of parts like yahoo auctions have.

So far I've purchased from croooober
Genuine r package spoiler
Genuine Mazda speed strut brace
Floor mats
Cluster

Usual take about a week to arrive if you use ems shipping


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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby speed » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:26 pm

What's the benefit of the jap cluster?

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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby Magpie » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:38 pm

JDM'ness :)

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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby lolmx5 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:18 pm

speed wrote:What's the benefit of the jap cluster?

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Nothing really that special, reads up to 180kms instead of 220 as the aus specs are, mainly got it so I could change faces and do a bit of custom work :)


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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby speed » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:48 pm

Ok cool.
I recently bought a NA8 one for my na6 so I could get the demister light and a non cracked screen :)

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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby MJT_MX5 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:54 pm

Cars looking great.
I thinking about that OEM boot spoiler for mine.
The car will max out 180km on a long straight.

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Re: lolmx5's NA8

Postby lolmx5 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:57 pm

speed wrote:Ok cool.
I recently bought a NA8 one for my na6 so I could get the demister light and a non cracked screen :)

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Well it seems like the jap spec na6 had the little Demister light as well. The one I bought has one and it was advertised as a Na6c one.


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