Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby Luke » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:58 pm

rascal wrote:
beavis wrote:I didn't see any info on the track day, where was that communicated?
Was it ownly advised to members of the MX5vic or nsw clubs....?

Neil sent out the supp regs on Sunday arvo (8/1) by email, guessing only to those who had entered the sprint..

I only got sent these today.
Called Neil as it didn't have my Dad and I as a double entry which he knows about and is revising.
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Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby connorsmumsmx5 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:34 am

I had to amend my guest numbers and when I email Mazda loyalty they acknowledged the change straight away, saying to expect another email with full details buy the end of next week. No need to be concerned yet then.
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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby Magpie » Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:38 am

If any Sandown locals can post some helpful videos of the track and any 'quirks' it would be appreciated.


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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby hrtvic » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:30 pm

Mazda Australia have sent an email this morning with an update. It includes details on who is registered, what car is registered for the event, and what events you are registered for (i.e. show and shine and/or parade lap). It also details arrival times for the events you are registered in.

The sprint competition is separate to this and you should have received info from the event secretary for the sprints if you have entered those.

It also has a link to 'more info' https://www.mazda.com.au/mx-5-fan-fest-information/?utm_source=MX5Registered&utm_medium=eDM&utm_campaign=MX5FanFest&utm_content=btn

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby rascal » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:44 pm

Magpie wrote:If any Sandown locals can post some helpful videos of the track and any 'quirks' it would be appreciated.]

Corners 4 and 12 are the most important ones as they lead onto LONG straights, so you need to maximise your exit speed to capitalize along the whole straight following.
Turn 6 is the scariest as its a very fast LH that falls away from you , and the fence is way too close. (We've had four cars written off in that fence in the recent years)

The rest of the track is pretty hohum and only requires lots of hp to get a good time.


See below for Matt King's writeup he did for the Vic club a few years ago...


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SANDOWN TRACK TIPS - MATT KING

General
Sandown is a fast circuit - not as much as Phillip Island, but power will get you good times here. It's also an intimidating circuit, and for good reason.
There are several sections where the fences are close to the track, and if you go off you can hit one.


The main straight is bumpy. Usually this isn't much problem, though it may be for high powered cars in the wet (I did see one VK race car tankslap his way into the wall 200 metres after starting his warmup lap...). The main issue is that it can upset your braking into turn 1.

Turn 1:
Turn 1 is quite fast, and relatively safe as there is lots of runoff on the outside. It's about 80° to the left.
In a standard MX you'll be near the top of 4th (or maybe 5th in a 6 speed?) at the end of the straight. Turn 1 is a 3rd gear corner, so you need to wash off some speed in a straight line. The main mistake people make is to turn in too fast, and run off the outside at the exit.

Be progressive applying the brakes due to the bumps. Usually you can use the black rubber marks across the track as brake markers - typically in the 150-100 metre range. Trail brake in a little, but don't overdo it. The apex is hard to sight from the turn in point, so make sure you don't run wide. Get on the power early. If you do it right, you will be running just up onto the exit ripple strip, which is quite flat. Go too fast, and you can run off this ripple strip. If so, hang on for a bumpy ride! and keep the steering straight, don't try to pull back on quickly or it can spit you off the left side.
Power down to Turn 2.


Turn 2-3 (Esses).
A right-left flip-flop, not terribly complex, you'll be back in 2nd gear probably. (If you are just learning and practising, try it in 3rd and learn the line before doing it aggressively.) There is no need to try to get massive exit speed as you are so close to Turn 4. Smooth smooth smooth! Flow it through. Avoid the ripple strips if possible, particularly in a stiff car - they can bounce you sideways a bit. If you are going to hit one, keep the steering straight until you land. The fence is very close to the outside of turn 3. On standard suspension you can get away with running over the ripple strips, but I don't think it's any faster.


Turn 4:
Left hander onto the back straight, 2nd gear.
You will probably need to wash off a little speed out of 3. If you're on track tyres you may need to short shift to 3rd between 3 and 4, or just bounce off the limiter briefly.
Don't miss the apex (practice this on your warm up and cool down laps!), and get the power on as early as possible to get speed up the back straight.
The main trick here is that there is a very wide concrete apron at the exit. It has quite good grip, even in the wet. So use it, get your car up there so that you can carry more mid-corner speed. If it's wet and you do this, wait til you're pointing straight before applying power. If you have a very low car, you might bottom out on the ripple strip...


Turn 5:
just a little right kink in the straight - nothing special, you won't be near the limit. The only thing to do is be super smooth. Don't turn aggressively, you shouldn't apply more than fingertip pressure to the wheel or you will be scrubbing off speed, and that will lose you time up the straight.

The back straight is uphill and seems to take forever in a standard MX. But don't back off until you're over the crest and can see Turn 6.

Turn 6 (Sweeper):
Fast and scary, but massively rewarding if you get it right. Keep on the power for much longer than you think. Stay in 4th. Only just before turn in do you need to gently wash off some speed, and you can trail brake in quite deep. If you're at 10/10ths the car will drift a little mid-corner, but near the exit there is a slight dip that will grip the car and hook it around. (If you're at 10/10ths you probably don't need to read this...)


Turn 7-8 (flip-flop):
Just before you run out onto Dandenong Rd, there is a right-left kink that can unsettle the car, and the fence is nice and close...
If you haven't been too fast through the sweeper, you can usually power down through 7. If you have soft suspension, you can usually jump the right wheels over the ripple strip. Make sure you get the car straight past 8 - you will need to be hard on the brakes for turn 9. Braking point is just before this kink (or just after depending on your testicles)


Turn 9 (Dandenong Rd):
A sharp left hander, 2nd gear.
Make sure you get all the way out to the right as you brake on approach, to open up the corner as much as possible. Like Turn 4, don't miss the apex, it is too easy to run wide. Also like turn 4, you can get the car up on the concrete apron at the exit, and carry much more speed. Don't try it in a very low car or you will bottom out the sump (Sorry Andrew!).

Stay on the right as you exit, until you get past the little right kink (Turn 10) with the cones (You don't need a wide entry for this kink)


Turn 11:
Deceptively fast, it's only about a 45° right. This corner is all about setting yourself up for the last corner onto the main straight. You can stay in 3rd and flow in, in which case you have to downshift to 2nd for Turn 12. Or you can drop back to 2nd early and let it rev. Your call. Don't turn in too fast though, or you can spin. Just make sure that you compromise the exit totally, hugging the right ripple strip on the way out. This will get you in the right place for...


Turn 12:
The last corner onto the straight. You will probably need a dab on the brakes before turn-in, since it's a sharper turn than the previous one. This is going to sound repetitive, but a) don't miss the apex, and b) use all the concrete apron at the exit - this is the most rewarding corner for this, as the apron is dead flat, and the straight is the longest.

There is another little kink onto the main straight - this is negligible in an MX, just flow through while you sit back and make a cuppa and wait for Turn 1 again.

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby Magpie » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:20 pm

Thanks Rascal.

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby bruce » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:00 pm

As said, exit too wide on Turn 9 (Dandy Rd) you will end up in the outside gravel trap. You will need a tow (I did that many moons ago).

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby hrtvic » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:13 pm

There is a couple of videos on the Vic Club website here:

https://mx5vic.org.au/motorsport/championship-rules/

No guarantee that they are perfect laps, but you might get something from them.

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby Guran » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:31 pm

Try not to make this mistake.

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby Magpie » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:30 pm

Long range forecast is showers.

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby greenMachine » Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:45 pm

http://www.revolutionracegear.com.au/?PCID=18358

These are the SFI or FIA padding only accepted.

The bars above and around your seat need to be covered, you will need a length of 900mm, and also cover the diagonal half way down.

Our regs are no different to any other events etc.

The above reply was provided to my question about rollbar padding. I will need to add padding to my rollbar to comply. I suggest every competitor who has not been scrutineered in Victoria read the above closely. The regs may be the same but the interpretation/application is different.

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby Magpie » Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:57 am

This is how mine is done (FIA approved foam), never had any issues with scrutineering in the past. It needs to be trimmed at the top to fit under the hardtop, it is held on with double sided tape and cable ties. I have a spare piece that I can bring with me if required, I ordered 4 pieces and used 3.

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby bruce » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:40 am

Weather forecast looks good. Low20s.

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby dbr » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:55 am

There are other suppliers of foam that meets the FIA/CAMs requirements. The harder foam rubber will need to be heated to about 80deg.C to bend around the corners of your roll bars.

On another matter, Does anybody have a spare seat to take a passenger to Sandown from the Geelong area? I was hoping to car pool rather than take another car for one person.

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Re: Mazda MX5 Fan Fest - Sandown 19-23 Jan 2017

Postby pcmx5 » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:25 pm

Pretty sure i will be able to help out with ride,Geelong/Sandown,

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