Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Chat to do with your MX5/Miata/Eunos Garage Ride(s).

Moderators: timk, Stu, zombie, Andrew, The American, Lokiel, -alex, miata, StanTheMan, greenMachine, ManiacLachy, Daffy

Apu
Speed Racer
Posts: 2399
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:04 pm
Vehicle: NB8B
Location: North West, NSW

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby Apu » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:35 pm

Meanwhile, looks like your rocker cover has suffered the same fate as mine!

User avatar
A.Chen89
Racing Driver
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:09 pm
Vehicle: NB8B - Turbo
Location: Western Sydney

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby A.Chen89 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:46 pm

Picked up a spare bonnet (with the help of a good mate!) and some Singular Motorsport louvres to hopefully keep engine bay temps under control at the track:
Image
Making aluminium snow:
Image
Finished
Image
Installed! (and ready for Maccas car park)
Image

Took the car to the South Circuit super sprint hosted by RTDC:
Image
Image

Had some issues on the first session with traction due to track conditions; managed to do a 1:20:00! :D

Second session, it dried up a bit, then the track started to become pretty decent on the third! Ended up doing a 1:08.1, kind of disappointing since I managed a 1:08:7 or so with exactly the same car but no turbo!

Unfortunately, missed out doing the last couple of sessions as the car was acting up. Went onto the track in the second last session, hit the throttle and had nothing but misses and no boost!
Freaked out a little bit then noticed the boost gauge was reading 80kPa; then it clicked that I had a vac leak!

Pulled in and found this:
Image

Unfortunately by the time I figured I had fouled plugs from idling so long with the vac leak, I also remembered that I didn't bring a plug tool. Rookie error! Did manage to have four brand new spark plugs with me though :roll:
Ended up limping home, swapping plugs which immediately fixed the missing and hesitation.

Also, did I mention the track was wet? Check out this down pour during lunch!
Image
And then the water evaporating shortly after!
Image

Snowmotion
Racing Driver
Posts: 750
Joined: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:47 pm
Vehicle: NC
Location: Sydney

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby Snowmotion » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:56 am

It was an interesting day out there and saw many cars looping it on turn 5 but good fun and well run.
I had been asking others about track time improvements with more power and had been told that 50% power increase was only bringing 0.8sec lap improvement.

I am not far behind in my NB8a. Managed a 1:08.86 for my first visit to this track.
NB8A| WP 1:15.6 | SMP-S 1:08.56 | SMP-N 1:21.35
NC1| WP 1:09.42 | SMP-S 1:03.191 | SMP-N 1:16.1856 | SMP-GP 1:48.288

User avatar
bruce
Speed Racer
Posts: 7706
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA8 - Turbo
Location: Victoria
Contact:

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby bruce » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:39 am

They look like the WRX vents?
How'd the engine temps go? But it looked like a wet and cool day.

User avatar
A.Chen89
Racing Driver
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:09 pm
Vehicle: NB8B - Turbo
Location: Western Sydney

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby A.Chen89 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:11 pm

Ah yes. Was hoping to dip into the 6's or 7's, definitely doable with a bit more courage.

But I think at this point I'll save for some proper r compounds.

They are Singular Mototsports vents, temps were ok. Solid 90 degrees for coolant and a stable 115 for oil. Need to relocate the oil cooler. Really need to do a track day in summer to see the full benefit IMO

Apu
Speed Racer
Posts: 2399
Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:04 pm
Vehicle: NB8B
Location: North West, NSW

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby Apu » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:10 pm

Alex, I had a Derale typhoon fan fitted by Mania - big difference in traffic (esp since I don't have vents now). Water temp aside, oil temp has not gone past 100degC - previously would get up to 110degC.

User avatar
A.Chen89
Racing Driver
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:09 pm
Vehicle: NB8B - Turbo
Location: Western Sydney

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby A.Chen89 » Sat Nov 05, 2016 9:17 pm

Mines fine in traffic, just at the track it gets a bit warm. I think I'll have it relocated and ducted behind a fog light.

In other news, I went to a motorkhana today! These things are pretty fun. Finally got the hang of it towards the end (i.e liberal use of handbrake and throttle).
There were a few standard tests but then at the end of the day there was a full pan course designed in the shape of a Christmas tree! Definitely my favourite of the day.
Image


Looking forward to doing more of these!

User avatar
A.Chen89
Racing Driver
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:09 pm
Vehicle: NB8B - Turbo
Location: Western Sydney

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby A.Chen89 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:17 pm

I guess its time for the annual update?

Had issues with the location of my oil cooler on the power steering rack; especially with the angle it was mounted. Was never getting any airflow, resulting in hot oil (>110 degrees) after a few minutes in a session at the track

got this fabricated by Suli/Pure Fab which solved this issue. Note: Thanks Lokiel for the step by step guide! If only my fabrication skills matched my ambition :oops:
Image
Image
Image
Image
This definitely keeps the oil under control, at least, enough for a full 10-15 minute session at the track now!

Haven't dríven the car much this year; but did manage to go out on a cruise to Macquarie pass in July
Image
Image
Now with added rear spoiler!

Then followed by an entry at Nulon Nationals at the time attack round at Brabham circuit
Image
Image

Unfortunately I had to run some pretty old KU36's on the day but in August my 6UL's finally arrived at Mania!
Image
Image
Image

I had them wrapped up a set of 225/45/15's. Great tyre, great size and awesome price! Looks 16" tyres in MX-5 size are hard to find now a days so the meisters will be parked for a while.

The track action was followed up by a super sprint at SMSP South (Amaroo)

And then finally topped off by a day at Marulan last weekend!
Image
Image
Image
Image


Was hoping to make the October long weekend Circuit club day but it looks like I'll have to pass. Need a 90 degree elbow welded to the turbo outlet as I keep blowing 2" joiners (too damn close to the manifold!)

Used a bit of oil too last track day so I'm hoping I have a dud PCV valve and something not more sinister (oil leak from sump, piston rings too far gone)

Here's to hoping for no more mechanical failures and fluid leaks in the near future; knock on wood.

User avatar
Lokiel
Forum legend
Posts: 4126
Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 2:39 pm
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Brisbania

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby Lokiel » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:36 pm

A.Chen89 wrote::
Image
:

That looks friggin' awesome!

Glad to share my modz, thanks for sharing yours.
Don't worry about dying, worry about not living!
Garage Thread: http://www.mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=76716

User avatar
A.Chen89
Racing Driver
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:09 pm
Vehicle: NB8B - Turbo
Location: Western Sydney

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby A.Chen89 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:57 pm

So another summer has passed; and a couple more things have been added to the car.

Fixed that silicon joiner issue by welding an elbow on to the turbo; and got Mania to put on some braided brake lines. They seem to do the job.

Went for a track day at Wakefield yesterday and managed a new PB of 1:10.18! Plenty more in it; its definitely a case of the brakes then tyres giving up. Next step on the upgrade path is a big brake kit and R-comps; though I think oil/coolant temps might be a bit more of an issue again with R-comps.

Did another track day today (two in a row!) at the new Luddenham Raceway circuit; managed a PB of 53.484. Definitely more in it with some better driving!

The actual layout is amazing with alot of elevation changes, a very technical downhill esses section which suits the MX-5 to a T! The run off however, is non existent. In its currrent state turns 1, the run up to turn 4/5 up the top of the hill is not forgiving at all if anything were to go wrong. Having said that; unless you have a serious lapse of concentration or a critical mechanical failure then you'll be ok!


User avatar
A.Chen89
Racing Driver
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:09 pm
Vehicle: NB8B - Turbo
Location: Western Sydney

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby A.Chen89 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:13 pm

Been a few years and good news the car is still running! Looks like people are still using the forum - I think the transition to Facebook groups has been a big detriment for knowledge.

Anyway, getting back to this from the last time we left off...

Sometime between May 2018 and October 2019

After a motorkhana at Sydney Motorsport Park, I noticed the car was getting harder and harder to start. Until I parked it at home after the khana, then it refused to crank and start. Uh oh.

Long story short, checked plugs, coil packs, ECU etc all the usual suspects. Then also did a compression test.

Big fat 0 on a couple of cylinders. At first I thought this couldn't be right (the compression tester was pretty dodgy) but tried another compression tester and lo and behold, no compression on two cylinders.

With the help of a couple of friends; the head came off and the investigation begun.
Tried the fuel in the cylinder trick to see if the piston rings were the cause; couple of cylinders did have a bit of leakage but it wasn't conclusive.

After a bit more sleuthing, turns out the problem was recessed valves! Too much material must have been taken off the factory valve seats when the head was refreshed during the engine build. The machine shop fit some Inconel valve seats and bam, problem fixed.

Did take a bit of time though. Got the shop to do a dyno pull to make sure everything was healthy; different shop, different dyno but the motor seems to be fixed judging by the power figure!

ImageMX5 by Alex Chen, on Flickr

ImageMX5 by Alex Chen, on Flickr

ImageMX5 by Alex Chen, on Flickr

ImageMX5 by Alex Chen, on Flickr

ImageMX5 by Alex Chen, on Flickr

ImageUntitled by Alex Chen, on Flickr

User avatar
A.Chen89
Racing Driver
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:09 pm
Vehicle: NB8B - Turbo
Location: Western Sydney

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby A.Chen89 » Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:15 pm

Fixing the MX-5 did take a while but that was due to also picking up a Honda in the mean time!

Bought it off Facebook market place for $1800, the GLI model with a tachometer, power windows AND disc brakes on all four. COVID wasn't yet a thing so this was about the normal price for a shitbox.

ImageUntitled by Alex Chen, on Flickr

The factory engine didn't exactly delight the senses; so it had to be removed for something else. But that's a story for another time and probably another forum.

ImageUntitled by Alex Chen, on Flickr

User avatar
ManiacLachy
Forum Guru
Posts: 3266
Joined: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:35 pm
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Brisbane

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby ManiacLachy » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:44 am

I don't know how I missed this thread before? It was active when I first came on board, maybe I was still too much of a newb. Glad to have re-read it now, such a cool car.

I'm confused by the dyno graph. Is it making ~420nm or ~220kw? There's only one scale on the boarder, and both can't be true :mrgreen: Although it would be cool to see it putting out over 400nm, I think the ~220kw is more realistic. Definitely healthy.

A.Chen89 wrote:The factory engine didn't exactly delight the senses; so it had to be removed for something else. But that's a story for another time and probably another forum.


Definitely share here please!

User avatar
A.Chen89
Racing Driver
Posts: 509
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:09 pm
Vehicle: NB8B - Turbo
Location: Western Sydney

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby A.Chen89 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:54 am

Cheers. Yeah believe the power figure and not the torque. Pull was in 5th gear (1:1) but torque figures on dynos are usually pretty terrible - they are good at measuring power only.

Well, you can get a good torque figure if you sit down and punch in some fudge factors but nobody ain’t got time for that.

Haha I’ll post a pic or two up of the civic and see if I can get some of the old pictures working.

User avatar
greenMachine
Forum Guru
Posts: 4053
Joined: Thu Apr 24, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Sports car paradise - Canberra
Contact:

Re: Let's try this again - Alex's NB

Postby greenMachine » Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:46 am

That's a respectable figure - have you done the rods?

300+k kms, you are doing well! A little way to go to catch the original GM (~335k kms) when it was written off, but is probably in better condition than the GM at that age, but dirt roads do that.

Keep up the good work!

:mrgreen:
I never met a horsepower I didn't like (thanks bwob)

Build thread

NB SE - gone to the dark side (and loving it 8) )


Return to “MX5 Garage Chat”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests