Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

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Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby billybunter » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:29 pm

Just wondering what type of engine mods I could do to my SE for say $3 to $4k that would give it a bit more get up and go. I will list what it has done to date and any help to increase the power output will be appreciated.

1. Chip-torque chip
2. Begi down pipe.
3. Begi cold air intake
4. Larger ebay intercooler.
5. Manual boost control
6. Turbosmart BOV
7. Rubber elbows replaced by the Begi steel jobs

Still running standard exhaust from down pipe on.
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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby davekmoore » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:42 pm

Answers are, as you no doubt know, all over this forum.

The single answer is probably NitroDann.
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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby bear2230 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:51 pm

Haltech and a good tune will change your life. Won't get any change from 3K. PS1000 you can get for around a grand now or a bit more for an Elite 1500.
After that look at exhaust, new manifold and a 2560 or bigger and say hello to 200rwkw and spinning wheels in third :D :D

Best to give Dann a call first. He might have a better option.

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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby billybunter » Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:41 pm

Thanks to both replies and 200 RWHP sounds pretty good to me. Any ideas on what a 0-100kph burst would be on that output. I'd say my motor is pretty sound and in good order with only 70,000 klm on the clock.
It has seen the redline in the Top end of OZ but only in top gear but I rarely get up it in the lower gears. That might change shortly :wink:

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Postby NitroDann » Sun Mar 27, 2016 8:50 pm

Exhaust/mac valve, ecu, injectors, setup, tune.

Bam, 220+whp

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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby davekmoore » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:19 pm

billybunter wrote:Any ideas on what a 0-100kph burst would be on that output.

Between 5 and 6 seconds, not that 0-100 times are all that important.

The correct ECU and the correct tune are what are important to overall driveability. The factory ECU can't give you that. They are both also important to ensuring your con rods stay straight, since you haven't mentioned opening the motor to build a stronger bottom end.
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Postby Juicy HiC » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:28 pm

Mine has had Dann work his magic and according to Torque 0-100km was 4.9sec.

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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby davekmoore » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:31 pm

Think is a bit more than 200bhp atw though?

And did you have a little incident with rods which billybunter might want to know about?
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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby billybunter » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:08 pm

Once upon a time :lol: it took a very good car to go from 0 to 100 kph in the 5 to 6 second bracket. This idea interests me and I have no plans to sell the SE as I still think its the best car I've dríven or owned over the years and I've had a fair few of them :)
Plan to contact NitroDann and discuss the matter...sounds exciting! Again thanks for the feedback and I appreciate the quick response to all who chipped in.

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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby davekmoore » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:18 pm

NitroDann has a great rep on here.

Even if you find other suppliers than NitroDann, try to keep with just the one supplier to do everything so that one shop takes full responsibility for how each modification interacts with the others.

Bear in mind that if you have a quick turbo MX-5 you will be sorely tempted to take it on the track. There are then other things to do, like cooling, and brakes, and ........
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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby Nevyn72 » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:49 pm

NitroDann wrote:Exhaust/mac valve, ecu, injectors, setup, tune.

Bam, 220+whp

Dann

Have to agree with Dann here, these seem to be the only things you are missing apart from the exhaust from the DP back....... :wink:
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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby billybunter » Sun Mar 27, 2016 11:30 pm

What's a mac valve?

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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby NitroDann » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:26 am

It replaces the factory boost control solenoid when you change to an aftermarket ECU.

It's just the industry name for a 3 port boost control solenoid, because the company that produces by far the most popular one is called 'MAC'.

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Re: Upping the power on an SE Turbo -Advise please.

Postby Juicy HiC » Mon Mar 28, 2016 8:30 am

No incident with Rod's, prior to my car going to Dann it was running at 220rwhp, when Dann pulled the engine open one of the Rod's was bent. He mentioned that this is a common thing on SE's that have more power. Hadn't effected the performance of the engine and there was no loss of compression on that cylinder. This could effect anyone that ups the power on their SE with any of the standard mods that we do.

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