Anyone considering the Fiat 124?

miata_adam · Postby **miata_adam** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:03 pm

The Fiat 124 was just announced today. Since it's a MX5 underbody, I am wondering whether anyone is considering the 124 instead of the Miata? What are your thoughts on it?

rascal · Postby **rascal** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:27 pm

They wore out the ugly stick making it....

lightyear · Postby **lightyear** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:32 pm

Who approved that?

smy0003 · Postby **smy0003** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:37 pm

Looks like a badly designed body kit.
I don't mind the dark tan interior option or the wheels, even if they are massive.

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taipan168 · Postby **taipan168** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:05 pm

Looks kind of like a Frankencar, but I'd be interested in seeing how the car drives with the 1.4 turbo engine.

Lokiel · Postby **Lokiel** » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:36 pm

The bonnet was obviously inspired by the flarper of the Blue Whale:

That's "The my word of the day", flarper - the scientific term for the extra skin under the chin is called the Flarper (I had to look that up).

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:05 am

Looks like the love child of a NC and a slightly old Jag.

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Magpie · Postby **Magpie** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:33 am

Lokiel however the whale would have to be floating upside down to match the bonnet.

Nice word of the day though.

SE · Postby SE » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:43 am

It could be have been worse it could have been a rebadged boring 1.5 ND

Nevyn72 · Postby **Nevyn72** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:45 am

Doesn't look bad in white. :mrgreen:

Will be interesting to see what styling changes are made for the Abarth version as the whole nose (from about a 1/3rd of the way down each front fender) appears to be a single unit.

Snowmotion · Postby **Snowmotion** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:15 am

Apparently a little more luggage space in the boot which is not a bad thing for the cafe cruiser.
I think it really draws from the classic Alfa Spider especially at the rear.

The 2 grill treatments leaves me a bit lost but otherwise a a good interpretation to their design style. With the Abarth motor could be a really good car and even the 1.4 turbo is meant to be a little more mid range then the mazda 1.5.

Tezzax5 · Postby **Tezzax5** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:22 am

Not in Black but i do like it.

Loving the White

If it has the ND type seats in it then it's a 'NO"...

Worst seats in any car i have ever sat in for my body shape. L5,S3 damage from racing personal watercraft years ago :frown:

Even the recaro 's are a little tight on the shoulders for me.

( Envious of the folk that can get comfortable in a ND )

rascal · Postby **rascal** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:23 am

Snowmotion wrote:and even the 1.4 turbo is meant to be a little more mid range then the mazda 1.5.

I'd suggest waaaaayyyy more mid range than a nat asp 1.5.

Nevyn72 · Postby **Nevyn72** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:26 am

Snowmotion wrote:With the Abarth motor could be a really good car and even the 1.4 turbo is meant to be a little more mid range then the mazda 1.5.

Actually the base 124 with 1.4T in US spec has 5hp more and 25% more torque (torque is much lower in the rev range too, 2500 Vs 4600 RPM) than the 2.0L SAG in the Mazda!
The Euro spec 124 has the same engine with a lower state of tune, somewhere between the 1.5 & 2.0 SAG, I wonder what tune the Australian version will get?

The Abarth is expected to have significantly more although which engine it will use is yet to be disclosed......*
* Speculation is for a 1.4T with a higher state of tune, a 1.7T from the econo-box Alfa cars with cast iron block or *Wishful thinking* the 1.75T all Alloy engine from the Afla 4C.

Nevyn72 · Postby **Nevyn72** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:30 am

Tezzax5 wrote:If it has the ND type seats in it then it's a 'NO"...

Worst seats in any car i have ever sat in for my body shape.

Seats get quite a different treatment to the ND, however it is unclear at this stage whether they use the same structure.....

Also note from this picture the difference of the design of the door cards, you actually get a real 'grab handle'.