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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby Lokiel » Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:25 am

Juicy HiC wrote:Image
... and the first of its kind, a Nitrodann clutch, I'll let Dann explain it.
Also added Frame rails and an Automotive plus twin diagonal rollbar.

We did discuss going to flex fuel but it just didn't quite fit in with my budget at the moment. I may still do it later down the track but for now it will be 98.

Final result... 280+RWHP

This was done on an unknown dyno and Dann feels that it's quite a conservative number. But also a conservative tune as he was concerned about the after sales care given that I'm 1049km from him.

... What he's done with the clutch is fantastic.

So once we'd finished our drive through the hills I dropped Dann off, grabbed my old parts and got on the road at 1130 and pulled into my driveway in Melbourne at 1030. It was very comfortable the whole way, not once did I feel that the exhaust was drony or annoying. The best thing was I averaged 7.8lt per 100kmh. This is the best I've ever gotten out of this car.

Obviously if your reading this you've seen the other various comments about the Elite and other available ECU's. The short answer is, it's brilliant. The long answer is, be prepared to wait for Haltech, as Dann has pointed out to me, they are a small company even though they seem quite large. Things take time and they may not be perfect when you get them. However the other side of that is, give it to the right person and the thing is amazing.
Only 3 of these have been installed on MX5's, 2 of which have been done by Dann. The other was by Haltech. All I can say to this is that if your considering it I would only use one person at the moment to install it. He has the setup down and a couple of great tunes to go of.
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I'm interested to hear more on the clutch, mine is slipping at the moment (can feel it when accelerating, even mildly), the OS Giken clutch has always been "chatty" but it's worse than ever now (maybe it's just bitching about "lack of use"). I've got a few things I want done, including the new TSE EFR6258 cast manifold and water inlet modification, so am waiting for the manifold to arrive before I get the work done.

We have another rollbar believer too - mine felt a huge difference as soon I pulled out of the MX5Plus car park and I can't believe the naysayers.
I have FM frame rails too but can't say if they made a difference (probably because I already had the roll bar).

Hopefully 280rwhp is enough and you wont want "MOAR POWA". I'm aiming for 270rwhp since I figure even that's around the level of usable traction; this will be easy with the EFR6258, MX5Plus had it at 280+rwhp with little effort and immediately recognised the massive boost creep. On the track, our gearboxes seem to die at ~300rwhp so that's one reason to keep the power under 300rwhp - you'll also start discovering other things that break too at those power levels.

Glad to hear you're happy with the result. As you've said, sometimes these things can take longer than expected but Dann's a great "one-stop shop" so he HAS to ensure that everything works together and understands what integrates well "off the shelf" and what has to be modified (plus he has the skills to do it). It's definitely worth it to let the job take longer to walk away with a great result (as opposed to rushing the job and having to go back several times to address problems).

Hearing the up-front cost of this work will scare some people off, some may prefer upgrading slowly (potentially leaving the car un-driveable for extended periods) or shopping the work around (WORST thing you can do, specialists only care/know about their domain and either aren't interested enough, innovative enough or don't have the skills to integrate other components), but to be able to do it all in one hit and knowing you'll end up with a great result is worth it, even if you have to save a few years for it.
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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby davekmoore » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:25 pm

Lokiel wrote:Glad to hear you're happy with the result. As you've said, sometimes these things can take longer than expected but Dann's a great "one-stop shop" so he HAS to ensure that everything works together and understands what integrates well "off the shelf" and what has to be modified (plus he has the skills to do it). It's definitely worth it to let the job take longer to walk away with a great result (as opposed to rushing the job and having to go back several times to address problems).

Hearing the up-front cost of this work will scare some people off, some may prefer upgrading slowly (potentially leaving the car un-driveable for extended periods) or shopping the work around (WORST thing you can do, specialists only care/know about their domain and either aren't interested enough, innovative enough or don't have the skills to integrate other components), but to be able to do it all in one hit and knowing you'll end up with a great result is worth it, even if you have to save a few years for it.


x 1000 for all the above. Also taking the car to one place means you don't end up with different "experts" blaming each other, especially when their faulty work fails.
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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby Apu » Sat Oct 31, 2015 7:40 pm

Yup, I saw your car there last week and you would have seen mine there. I'm absolutely delighted with mine - new exhaust, touched up tune...Badbong was with me and had a drive - he too was very impressed.

The power is just so linear...and the sound! Just love it!

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby ManiacLachy » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:20 am

Can some one start saying bad things, so I don't feel the need to drive down to Newcastle tomorrow!

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby Lokiel » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:25 am

ManiacLachy wrote:Can some one start saying bad things, so I don't feel the need to drive down to Newcastle tomorrow!

NO - "Face the facts Man"(iacLachy), this is your best option!
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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby Apu » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:57 pm

ManiacLachy wrote:Can some one start saying bad things, so I don't feel the need to drive down to Newcastle tomorrow!


Mmm...

- 186rwkW is trouble making power?

- the car wasn't detailed when I got it back? I also half expected an old scratch on my bonnet to have been touched up...

- that creak in my seat is still there...

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby Roadrunner » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:54 pm

ManiacLachy wrote:Can some one start saying bad things, so I don't feel the need to drive down to Newcastle tomorrow!


I got my car back from Dann and he hadn't cleaned off my excess polish and wax from the door & bonnet edges.
What a jerk.

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby Juicy HiC » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:06 pm

Almost got a speeding ticket.

Probably more my fault than Dann's.

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby ManiacLachy » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:47 pm

You guys think you're helping, but you're not :(

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby Magpie » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:43 am

Newcastle to Brisbane - Jetstar has seats from $59 (less than the cost of fuel to drive down). Dann may even take you to the airport?

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby Juicy HiC » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:10 am

Yep picked me up from the airport hotel.

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby Magpie » Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:21 am

ManiacLachy there you go another reason to not use Dann :)

1. Picks you up from the airport;
2. Almost gets you a speeding ticket (an almost is much better than an actual one)
3. Car will make so much power there is no need to detail it, the wax will be stripped off by shear force

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby davekmoore » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:11 pm

sheer shear force?
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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby NitroDann » Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:30 pm

Been for a lap yet Dave?

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Re: Juicy's SE

Postby TrackAttack » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:15 am

Tell me more about this special clutch Dann...?


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