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Plug gap advice please

Postby davekmoore » Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:51 pm

What gap is recommended on NGK plugs equivalent to Denso IK 16s in an SE with ID1000 injectors, Haltech, Fab9 COPS, E85 and 11psi?
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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby davekmoore » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:50 pm

Please ignore this. Apparently they're not really designed to be adjusted.
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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby KevGoat » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:07 pm

Yeah, they're set from the box...

Edit: Actually, with your (or any such) upgrades, is it possible that a spark gap could be different?

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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby davekmoore » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:29 pm

Maybe, except the biggest issue seems to be the tops of the plugs can't be removed from the NGKs, unlike the Densos, so the COPs won't fit properly on the NGKs. MAJOR misfires under load presently.
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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby NitroDann » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:38 pm

You need a dyno to be sure.. But I tell ya what, if you brought it to me id fit BKR7E's, gapped to 0.6mm and I reckon that it would be perfect first go.
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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby hks_kansei » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:44 pm

For reference, pretty much all plugs are able to be gapped, it's just a matter of lightly tapping the end on the workbench until it's where you need it according to the feeler gauge.

The only real difference is those weird ones with the 4 electrode points.
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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby davekmoore » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:53 pm

NitroDann wrote:You need a dyno to be sure.. But I tell ya what, if you brought it to me id fit BKR7E's, gapped to 0.6mm and I reckon that it would be perfect first go.

Do the tops screw off to properly engage the COPs?
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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby lightyear » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:15 am

The 7 in the BKR7E means heat range 7? I was told to make sure I have 7 heat range. Went to autobahn. They have 3.....
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Postby bear2230 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:23 am

lightyear wrote:The 7 in the BKR7E means heat range 7? I was told to make sure I have 7 heat range. Went to autobahn. They have 3.....


I use BKR6E in both cars, standard gap and no problems at all, ever, and Repco and Autobahn have heaps of them.
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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby sailaholic » Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:20 pm

Don't forget Bosch and ngk number their heat ranges backwards to each other so best check your getting the right heat range if you swap brands.


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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby manga_blue » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:45 pm

NitroDann wrote:You need a dyno to be sure.. But I tell ya what, if you brought it to me id fit BKR7E's, gapped to 0.6mm and I reckon that it would be perfect first go.

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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby davekmoore » Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:46 pm

NitroDann wrote:You need a dyno to be sure.. But I tell ya what, if you brought it to me id fit BKR7E's, gapped to 0.6mm and I reckon that it would be perfect first go.

Anyone able to tell me an NGK BKR7E equivalent which has the top electrode screw off (apparently as motorcycle plugs) so they'll be a better fit under my COPs?
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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby Okibi » Wed Jun 17, 2015 1:35 am

Interesting timing, I looked on the NGK website last night and for the SE they recommended IFR5T-8N

That's an expensive plug and a 0.8 gap.

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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby davekmoore » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:09 am

Okibi wrote:Interesting timing, I looked on the NGK website last night and for the SE they recommended IFR5T-8N

That's an expensive plug and a 0.8 gap.

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http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=59779

Would that be the right heat range and gap NitroDann, and Okibi, can you confirm the top electrode will screw off so the plug will connect correctly with my motorcycle COPs?

Is there an alternative that's normal priced?
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Re: Plug gap advice please

Postby davekmoore » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:21 pm

Looks as if NGK BCPR7ES may be the go to fit the COPS with the top terminal nuts removed from the plugs. Will confirm after test fitting.
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