NitroDann's Long Awaited Garage Thread
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Re: NitroDann's Long Awaited Garage Thread
That's my car (the yellow line, not the purple sadly )
Every stock SE driver can relate to that graph.
Amazing the difference an ECU will make to these cars power and drivability!
NitroDann certainly knows his stuff with these, was cool hanging out watching him do his thing
Every stock SE driver can relate to that graph.
Amazing the difference an ECU will make to these cars power and drivability!
NitroDann certainly knows his stuff with these, was cool hanging out watching him do his thing
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Re: NitroDann's Long Awaited Garage Thread
NitroDann wrote:Haltech Elite1500 with NitroDann PnP harness, NitroDann EBC and NitroDann tune
Dann
How did you find the Elite1500 Dann? Are you becoming a fan or still keen on MegaSquirt.
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NitroDann wrote:PM's replied.
Yellow line SE performance mods:
2.5" magnaflow exhaust
Justjap FMIC
Purple line SE performance mods:
3" NitroDann exhaust
Justjap FMIC
NitroDann Intake
Haltech Elite1500 with NitroDann PnP harness, NitroDann EBC and NitroDann tune
Dann
The "usual" bolt-on SE performance mods are CAI+larger exhaust+bumping the boost to 10psi + larger injectors (305/315/321cc); the intercooler isn't a performance mod.
With these mods, users can expect at least 145rwkw (194rwhp) but the car will run like crap since the factory ECU cannot cope with this increase (the stock SE supposedly puts out ~110rwkw/147rwhp).
The larger exhausts adds ~10rwkw whereas the CAI + boost increase adds ~25rwkw which is closer to the purple line.
The graph nicely illustrates the benefit of an aftermarket ECU.
- are you going to put in any more effort between 3100..3650rpm to flatten it out more?
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Re: NitroDann's Long Awaited Garage Thread
Straight off my facebook page, for more details LIKE it and read some more
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NB with stock internals @ 257.7rwhp - this should be pumping out on your stereo at the track:
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Torque is also represented and as you can see its going to be just fine.
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speed wrote:If I was to do it again, I wouldn't even consider the supercharger.
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Thread-surrection!
Thought Id throw up some recent pics and let everyone ask questions and discuss the variables. Lots of people are interested in what parts go into producing these results, and the process and costs involved.
So here is the engine bay:
And the Dyno Sheet:
And the Compliance Certificate (Engineering cert.):
What it has that it NEEDS for the performance.
Edexy HD Organic
GT2560r
Manifold/downpipe exhaust (even a log and 2.5" could achieve this with more boost)
Standalone ECU (MS2)
ECU based electronic boost control
FMIC kit
Big injectors (overkill ID1000 in this case)
Oil feed and return
Air filter setup (tube and pod)
Options for reliability:
Reroute (water flow and temperature management)
Radiator (as above)
Braided oil AND water lines (Keeps the turbo bearings cool after shutdown)
Inconel studs/Stage8 locking hardware (keeps the turbo on the manifold and the downpipe on the turbo, no exhaust leaks at the track)
Exhaust flex pipe and brace (keeps the swinging exhaust forces which are HUGE off the turbo hardware)
Resbond locking compound (keeps the studs in the turbo)
Mazdaspeed engine mount on the turbo side (turbo side is the one that breaks)
Options for legal certification:
Euro4 cat (to help pass IM240)
Airbox intake (needed for street use)
Recirculated blow off valve (keeps the noise down)
Big muffler (to pass sound test, its still straight through however and sounds awesome- I recommend this exhaust option whether engineering or not)
Overkill options because why not:
Frame rails (protect the oem rails)
Walbro intank pump (the OEM one is great but this one was worn out so we stepped it up)
Toyota COPS (gives great starts and lets us completely forget about possible misfires even if the plugs are a little dirty, its a hot day, and we are flogging the tits off of it)
Then there are a series of tests that the car has to pass and its back on the road legal.
Feel free to ask tech questions about any of it.
Dann
Thought Id throw up some recent pics and let everyone ask questions and discuss the variables. Lots of people are interested in what parts go into producing these results, and the process and costs involved.
So here is the engine bay:
And the Dyno Sheet:
And the Compliance Certificate (Engineering cert.):
What it has that it NEEDS for the performance.
Edexy HD Organic
GT2560r
Manifold/downpipe exhaust (even a log and 2.5" could achieve this with more boost)
Standalone ECU (MS2)
ECU based electronic boost control
FMIC kit
Big injectors (overkill ID1000 in this case)
Oil feed and return
Air filter setup (tube and pod)
Options for reliability:
Reroute (water flow and temperature management)
Radiator (as above)
Braided oil AND water lines (Keeps the turbo bearings cool after shutdown)
Inconel studs/Stage8 locking hardware (keeps the turbo on the manifold and the downpipe on the turbo, no exhaust leaks at the track)
Exhaust flex pipe and brace (keeps the swinging exhaust forces which are HUGE off the turbo hardware)
Resbond locking compound (keeps the studs in the turbo)
Mazdaspeed engine mount on the turbo side (turbo side is the one that breaks)
Options for legal certification:
Euro4 cat (to help pass IM240)
Airbox intake (needed for street use)
Recirculated blow off valve (keeps the noise down)
Big muffler (to pass sound test, its still straight through however and sounds awesome- I recommend this exhaust option whether engineering or not)
Overkill options because why not:
Frame rails (protect the oem rails)
Walbro intank pump (the OEM one is great but this one was worn out so we stepped it up)
Toyota COPS (gives great starts and lets us completely forget about possible misfires even if the plugs are a little dirty, its a hot day, and we are flogging the tits off of it)
Then there are a series of tests that the car has to pass and its back on the road legal.
Feel free to ask tech questions about any of it.
Dann
http://www.NitroDann.com
speed wrote:If I was to do it again, I wouldn't even consider the supercharger.
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Is it a Nissan OEM gt2560r or a brand spanker?
Saw this on your facebook, so jealous.
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Brand new, identically spec'd except these have inconel turbine wheels.
The setup ran 270whp with 3% more boost control duty cycle and timing isnt maxxed, so its probably got 310 or more in it.
Also check that weight out, that is weighbridge confirmed engineered full weight of the vehicle as it sits. Yeah this thing HOOTS.
Dann
The setup ran 270whp with 3% more boost control duty cycle and timing isnt maxxed, so its probably got 310 or more in it.
Also check that weight out, that is weighbridge confirmed engineered full weight of the vehicle as it sits. Yeah this thing HOOTS.
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speed wrote:If I was to do it again, I wouldn't even consider the supercharger.
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185 wide tyres... lol
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It hooks up 100% in 1st too. That smooth delivery
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If engineered on e85, would the engineers report still state PETROL?
Also for the DIYers, what sort of muffler is it or am I stepping into your IP ?
Also for the DIYers, what sort of muffler is it or am I stepping into your IP ?
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Jeez, how am I going to get 200kg out of my SE?
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If engineered on e85, would the engineers report still state PETROL?
They didnt care with mine what fuel as long as its emissions are within specs. They know its E85 because of the smell but fuel was not noted on report
Also for the DIYers, what sort of muffler is it or am I stepping into your IP ?
Euro4 cat (to help pass IM240) Same as Snowie.
They didnt care with mine what fuel as long as its emissions are within specs. They know its E85 because of the smell but fuel was not noted on report
Also for the DIYers, what sort of muffler is it or am I stepping into your IP ?
Euro4 cat (to help pass IM240) Same as Snowie.
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Fuel type isn't noted they truly don't care or have a need to.
The muffler is a big shiny stainless one. It's nothing fancy, but it is part of my 3" system standard componentry everyone loves. Buy one.
The quality of the cat needs to be good but only to pass emissions. If you can pass without one that's OK too, as long as you can pass.
The muffler is a big shiny stainless one. It's nothing fancy, but it is part of my 3" system standard componentry everyone loves. Buy one.
The quality of the cat needs to be good but only to pass emissions. If you can pass without one that's OK too, as long as you can pass.
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