Which weekend/track car?

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby speed » Tue Jan 20, 2015 5:29 pm

TCR wrote:Thanks for the replies guys.

Quite like the FD RX7s, and have contemplated buying one in the past, but a 20year old, twin turbo rotary is probably not the best basis for a reliable and cost effective weekend track car.


And here I was prepping my flame suit :)

Finding a good one wouldn't be easy but surely there are 'some' out there already converted to single turbo with other decent mods. Anyways a no is a no, so I will move on :)

Can you legally turbo a 2.5 engine in a NC, as that would be my preference if spending up big? (And if I liked NCs)


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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby evil_weevil » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:09 pm

Paul - buy your old girl back ;)

not rego'd anymore though,,,but still has the QLD mod plate
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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby SKYHI » Tue Jan 27, 2015 9:57 am

evil_weevil wrote:Paul - buy your old girl back ;)

not rego'd anymore though,,,but still has the QLD mod plate


Was considering it mate.

The NA certainly has an advantage in that's it's the lightest of the range but when it comes to 2F and 2B regs it has it's limitations. I did consider building an all out 'time attack' turboed NA, but it really wouldn't be eligible for a lot.

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby MattR » Tue Jan 27, 2015 12:59 pm

Paul,

What abut something with a Nissan badge??

Depending on where you want to play, S13's can be had for cheap, just hard to find one that hasn't been molested.

S14's can range from very cheap to drug money, but finding a good one as a base you would get one with plenty of change out of $5k if you look hard enough.

For both cars, there is plenty of bolt on go fast bits for under the bonnet and under the chassis that are cheap and make them pretty quick.

Callum Whatmore's S13 is a very basic and simple car and it goes like stink, just not a car that is approved for Prodsports, but the 14's are.

If the budget is there and it must be a 2 seater, 350Z's are coming down in price, plenty to be had for less than $15k and they can be made to go pretty quick as well with plenty of weight to be removed if you want to look at 2B, or even 2F. And the same would go for an S15 silvia if 2 seats only is not a deal breaker.

An S14 to 2f spec could be put on the track for under $15k all up if you don't worry too much about changing computers or getting a motor built.

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby SKYHI » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:34 pm

Don't have anything against Nissans Matt, but i'm really looking for that "pure" sports car experience for my weekend car.

In saying that, i would love to see more 350Zs, Toyota 86s and Elises etc in 2F guise.

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby MattR » Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:15 pm

It might still be worth having a look at a 350Z then Paul, the early ones are reminiscent of the original S30 240Z but with the modern mechanicals.

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby SKYHI » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:24 pm

I've decided I'll probably doing something very similar to Brian Goodwin's " Extreme Street Toy".

http://www.mazdatalkforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2598

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Essentially an NC with 2.5l engine conversion, full exhaust, intake, cams and reflashed ecu. Upgraded LSD, clutch, radiator, brakes, Ohlins coilovers & swaybars. Lightweight wheels, R Specs, lighter battery, ADR approved race seats, harness, roll over hoop and Carbon fibre roof.

Goal would be abut 140 rwkw and plenty of torque. Hopefully get it down to about 1100kgs.

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby JBT » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:41 pm

Excellent choice...but would look better in red. :wink:
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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby SKYHI » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:51 pm

I'll be honest, Red won't be my preferred choice :)

It'll be built in line with the CAMS 2B regs, so that if I get to the point where I want to turn it into a dedicated race car, it'll just be a matter of stripping it out, replacing the rollover hoop with a full cage and tweaking from there.

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby lightyear » Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:59 pm

What do you think that will cost? $40k?
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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby SKYHI » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:07 pm

I'm hoping my good mate Chris will cut me a deal on a bulk buy if I proceed :wink: , but yeah I'm guessing about 35K including purchase of the car.

If I wasn't going to do a road registered car, then you could do it for under 30K, and to be honest that's what a good 2F NA or NB would cost to build from scratch with new parts.

I might be able to save a few bucks if some second hand parts come up for sale.

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby SKYHI » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:12 pm

Still probably cheaper than a new ND :)

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby MattR » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:35 pm

And quicker..... :D

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby plohl » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:37 pm

What sort of times would you expect from it?

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Re: Which weekend/track car?

Postby SKYHI » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:02 pm

Hard to tell, but I'd hope to get close to the times of the 2F MX5 race cars:

QR Clubman: 1:02
QR National: 1:25
Lakeside: 1:00
Wakefield: 1:11


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