Under-carpet Insulation?

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Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby marty085 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:31 pm

So my NA filled with water (cabin and boot) due to there being no rain rail installed by previous owner.. thanks mate.

Pulled out all the carpets, it's all nearly dry now. A fair bit of the original under-carpet insulation material is in poor condition and now is a good time to replace it.

Advice needed:
1. What sorta shop can I get the same stuff from?
2. Are there any alternatives which provide the same level of noise and heat insulation but are lighter?
3. Should I just leave it out? Will noise/heat be that bad?

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby lizard » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:34 pm

http://www.dynamat.com/


Should be able to get it a little cheaper on ebay

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby Mr Morlock » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:46 pm

Automotive paint shops ie selling products will have some options.

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby Dupain » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:10 pm

Get yourself a can of polystyrene foam and give the area underneath the carpart a good spray, gets into all te crannies and easy to do.

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby lizard » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:14 pm

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It also holds water and would be the best thing ever to promote rust :wink:

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby Snowmotion » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:35 pm

These guys have all sorts of products for cars.
I got a roll of felt underlay that I used to insulate a van.

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby Mr Morlock » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:14 pm

you use the right product - felt is not a good idea at all. Its a car not a carpet at home. Go to auto body people and get the right advice. You can also have spray on or paint sound deadener as well- been used for decades. Whether you want to use it is another thing.

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby Snowmotion » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:32 pm

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Mr Mortlock... you should not jump to conclusions. Nolanuda supply Automotive underlay which is what I have used and still use.
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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby nbse2 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:24 pm

If your in Blakehurst, Department of Interior in Kogarah should be able to help. They have a variety of underlay. I have a spare piece of insulation. I'll pm you.

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby Mr Morlock » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:01 pm

My point is that cars and eSpecially open top cars don't use felt underlays because they absorb water. Rust in floors thru wet underplays is something to avoid. There are a number of treatments for soundproofing and insulation that don't wick like felt or some other more traditional carpet underlays. Dynamat is one well known but there are others. I bought a sticky back insulation recently for a footwell and it's sold by the piece. I think the maker was bostik but maybe wrong however I buy automotive body items from an auto paint supplier and that runs to a wide range of body products though.

A bloke I was chatting to recently found rust in chassis rails ie a rwc guy examined the vehicle with a camera. The rust is hard to detect if people use spray on body insulation.

Nolan UDA is a supplier to automotive for example headlinings and slow motion may have a good product.

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby Mr Morlock » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:03 pm

Correction read snowmotion

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby marty085 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 4:07 pm

A place at revesby reckons that 10mm thick PE (polyethylene) foam will be good - closed cell doesn't hold water, and is decent for acoustic and thermal insulation.

Any reason why I shouldn't get some of this stuff?

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby Mr Morlock » Fri Aug 29, 2014 5:17 pm

Closed cell materials should be fine. Clarks carry a range of foams. There is an easy test for open compared to closed cell materials. 10mm is pretty thick.

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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby zephyrus17 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:20 pm

I installed Dynamat everywhere except for the extreme front leg space, and the firewall area. Didn't make a bit of difference, personally. Especially with a aftermarket exhaust, CAI, and driving with the roof down all the time...
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Re: Under-carpet Insulation?

Postby marty085 » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:48 pm

Mr Morlock wrote:Closed cell materials should be fine. Clarks carry a range of foams. There is an easy test for open compared to closed cell materials. 10mm is pretty thick.
Do you reckon 6mm would be better? I can get some of that at Department of the Interior tomorrow, but I actually thought that would be too thin...


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