Tein rattles

Wheels, Suspension, Brakes & Tyres questions and answers

Moderators: timk, Stu, zombie, Andrew, -alex, miata

manga_blue
Forum Guru
Posts: 4897
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:27 pm
Vehicle: NA8
Location: Moruya, NSW

Re: Tein rattles

Postby manga_blue » Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:58 pm

bruce wrote:
I can't believe the amount of money paid for Teins and you'd get better longetivity and I think ride-quality from the stock combo!
Actually I've got about 110,000kms out of my old HAs now and they still come out fine on the test bench. Never been rebuilt and I think the ride is pretty good, on 5/4, 7/5 and even 10/7 spring rates. I'd like to see how long all the Taiwanese ones last. :roll:
’95 NA8

User avatar
Okibi
Speed Racer
Posts: 10901
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Contact:

Re: Tein rattles

Postby Okibi » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:18 pm

My flex must be over 10 years old now, thought i'd killed them a few weeks back but they're still going strong.
If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.

roket52
Driver
Posts: 82
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:00 pm
Vehicle: NB8B
Location: Adelaide

Re: Tein rattles

Postby roket52 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:47 pm

I believe my MCA Blues have the exact same issue. I ve been trying to find out what the heck the noise is for ages now. Glad I read this post
NB8B| MCA Blue 10K/7K |SE Sways| 8lb Flywheel| 4.1 LSD| Lots a Fun!

93_Clubman
Speed Racer
Posts: 11856
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:35 pm
Vehicle: Clubman
Location: Melbourne

Re: Tein rattles

Postby 93_Clubman » Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:47 am

bruce wrote:Is $55 from fleabay a good price for a pair of Tein spanners?

Reckon I've seen them at a better price, but it might not have been for a pair. Also, generic brand ones of the right size will work & are cheaper.

User avatar
bruce
Speed Racer
Posts: 7708
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA8 - Turbo
Location: Victoria
Contact:

Re: Tein rattles

Postby bruce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:08 am

Ta. I've ordered a pair and will fiddle with teins next week.
I reckon loosen them off and slide clear tubing over the ends of the springs, I guess both ends.

User avatar
Charlie Brown
Speed Racer
Posts: 2623
Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NC
Location: Sydney, Just out of Dragon Territory over the bridge in the "Shire"
Contact:

Re: Tein rattles

Postby Charlie Brown » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:23 pm

bruce wrote:Ta. I've ordered a pair and will fiddle with teins next week.
I reckon loosen them off and slide clear tubing over the ends of the springs, I guess both ends.

I'm at a loss to understand why the fitting of rubber tubing to the spring would stop rattles.

If you have the correct length spring with the correct preload, the spring never leaves the spring seat on full droop.
Image

Wakefield 1:09.13 Eastern Creek GP 1:50.198 Ext 2:17.538 Sth 1:02.9003
Phillip Is 1:58.50 Winton Short 1:10.7 Lakeside 1:05.7711 MDTC 45.20

User avatar
bruce
Speed Racer
Posts: 7708
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA8 - Turbo
Location: Victoria
Contact:

Re: Tein rattles

Postby bruce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:34 pm

I believe there's a bit of wear involved, which allows the spring to move when unloaded. We're talking about a tiny amount of wear.

sailaholic
Speed Racer
Posts: 3511
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:38 pm
Vehicle: NA8
Location: Brisbane

Re: Tein rattles

Postby sailaholic » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:51 pm

But the preload should keep the spring firmly held against the seats unless your getting air rally car style.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

manga_blue
Forum Guru
Posts: 4897
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:27 pm
Vehicle: NA8
Location: Moruya, NSW

Re: Tein rattles

Postby manga_blue » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:06 pm

Earlier Teins don't have preload adjustment, only a fixed top perch with an adjustable bottom perch that has the weight of the car sitting on it. I use helper springs to stop them from coming free at full stretch.

Like this (obviously not my car):

Image
’95 NA8

ralt
Fast Driver
Posts: 423
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 11:10 am
Vehicle: ND - 2
Location: brisbane

Re: Tein rattles

Postby ralt » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:59 pm

Hi.
You do not need "c" spanners. Just put a long screwdriver into one of the indentations and hit it with a hammer is the best way to undo and tighten and is a lot easier than those spanners.

project.r.racing
Speed Racer
Posts: 3722
Joined: Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:16 pm
Vehicle: Non MX-5
Location: Glasshouse Mountains, QLD

Re: Tein rattles

Postby project.r.racing » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:53 pm

Never had this problem with bottom of the range Taiwanese made coilovers for past 10+ years.

I am also at a loss to the rattling of fully load encompassed springs.

User avatar
bruce
Speed Racer
Posts: 7708
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA8 - Turbo
Location: Victoria
Contact:

Re: Tein rattles

Postby bruce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:23 pm

I'd rather use c spanners than mark up my twins.
Can someone point out what else needs tightening in the rear? Don't want to accidentally bugger the alignment.

User avatar
taminga16
Speed Racer
Posts: 3617
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:22 am
Vehicle: NC
Location: Central Victoria

Re: Tein rattles

Postby taminga16 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:50 pm

bruce wrote:I'd rather use c spanners than mark up my twins.
Can someone point out what else needs tightening in the rear? Don't want to accidentally bugger the alignment.

Bruce,
A good rule of thumb is to tighten everything that you have undone under the weight of the vehicle.
Greg.
P.S. Write down every adjustment and use the same piece of road for testing, it is too easy to get lost in what you have done.
Greg.
When you turn your car on, does it return the favour?

ralt
Fast Driver
Posts: 423
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 11:10 am
Vehicle: ND - 2
Location: brisbane

Re: Tein rattles

Postby ralt » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:25 pm

Hi.
Once you have locked the top lock ring to the ring under the spring try and turn the lock ring up with you spanner. If you can turn both your preload is not correct continue until it is very firm.Measure the spring length to ensure they are the same. Do both sides and measure from the top of the bottom lock ring to the underside of the top lock ring if the springs are the same in length and rate the measurement should be the same. Then you can set the vehicle height. Rattling is usually caused by not enough preload.

User avatar
bruce
Speed Racer
Posts: 7708
Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NA8 - Turbo
Location: Victoria
Contact:

Re: Tein rattles

Postby bruce » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:49 pm

Ralt, you might have nailed it. Let me digest your instructions....


Return to “MX5 Wheels, Suspension, Brakes & Tyres”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 361 guests