Budget supercharger options???

Discussion regarding Turbocharged and supercharged MX-5s

Moderators: timk, Stu, zombie, The American, Lokiel, -alex, StanTheMan, greenMachine, ManiacLachy, Daffy, Sean

speed
Speed Racer
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:52 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Lugarno, Sydney

Budget supercharger options???

Postby speed » Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:17 pm

Looking for any budget alternative that will be reliable. not chasing much power so thought I'd limit to say 5psi.
Not sure if I'd need bigger injectors? Also heard of others running a stock ecu but i just cant get that thru my brain. Surely I'd need an aftermarket ecu?
Lastly, anyone done a Toyota m12 supercharger in a na6?
Any other options to consider?
Sounds like I'm a mega tight arse but the reality is that I'll revert back to my rx7 after next summer and the mx will be up for sale :(

Thank you thank you!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
NA6 turbo - 140kw atw - not the most powerful but so much fun :D

manga_blue
Forum Guru
Posts: 4897
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:27 pm
Vehicle: NA8
Location: Moruya, NSW

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby manga_blue » Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:55 pm

speed wrote:Sounds like I'm a mega tight arse but the reality is that I'll revert back to my rx7 after next summer and the mx will be up for sale :(
I reckon it'd be a lot easier to sell unmodified than it would be with a cheap-arsed supercharger.
’95 NA8

speed
Speed Racer
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:52 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Lugarno, Sydney

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby speed » Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:13 pm

Agreed but I just want to have a play creating it.
Apologies, I should have applied more effort with my original post. Intend to edit it when near a pc.



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
NA6 turbo - 140kw atw - not the most powerful but so much fun :D

User avatar
Okibi
Speed Racer
Posts: 10899
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Contact:

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby Okibi » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:51 am

I've seen a Toyota SC14 adapted to the mount on a power steering bracket.
If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.

User avatar
Black_Penguin
Racing Driver
Posts: 726
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:30 pm
Vehicle: NB8A
Location: Ulladulla, South Coast NSW

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby Black_Penguin » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:58 am

Would you have photos or further details Okibi? I'm investigating options...
My Garage Thread WP 1:16.1 SMSP South 1:10.0 WSID 15.6

User avatar
Okibi
Speed Racer
Posts: 10899
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 11:00 am
Vehicle: NB SE
Location: Perth, Western Australia
Contact:

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby Okibi » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:30 am

Sorry I don't think so, perhaps if someone in Adelaide knows Roger Trethewey they might have some shots.
If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.

93_Clubman
Speed Racer
Posts: 11854
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:35 pm
Vehicle: Clubman
Location: Melbourne

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby 93_Clubman » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:29 am

Black_Penguin wrote:Would you have photos or further details Okibi? I'm investigating options...

viewtopic.php?f=81&t=34710&start=15
viewtopic.php?f=81&t=38750&p=502819
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=42234

User avatar
Black_Penguin
Racing Driver
Posts: 726
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:30 pm
Vehicle: NB8A
Location: Ulladulla, South Coast NSW

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby Black_Penguin » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:55 am

Thanks for that 93, that gave me some things to think about.
My Garage Thread WP 1:16.1 SMSP South 1:10.0 WSID 15.6

speed
Speed Racer
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:52 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Lugarno, Sydney

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby speed » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:14 pm

Thanks okibi and 93_Clubman.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
NA6 turbo - 140kw atw - not the most powerful but so much fun :D

93_Clubman
Speed Racer
Posts: 11854
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:35 pm
Vehicle: Clubman
Location: Melbourne

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby 93_Clubman » Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:48 pm

speed wrote:Looking for any budget alternative that will be reliable. not chasing much power so thought I'd limit to say 5psi.
Not sure if I'd need bigger injectors? Also heard of others running a stock ecu but i just cant get that thru my brain. Surely I'd need an aftermarket ecu?


M45 might be worth considering as originally the base kit was sold as a bolt on 5-6PSI SC with minimal upgrades, so using original injectors & ECU. See my following for the original & later JRSC M45 install manuals:

93_Clubman wrote:Here's the JRSC install manual as a basic starting reference:
Later version of manual using Powercard (1/3 down page):
http://www.mossmiata.com/sitegraphics/p ... tions.html

Earlier version of manual using AFPR is here as 25MB file - use green download button near top right next to green view button: http://www.mediafire.com/?jhyuq5nimzn


Also see gslender's posts in following re his adapted M45 setup:
search.php?keywords=supercharge*&terms=all&author=gslender&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

speed
Speed Racer
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:52 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Lugarno, Sydney

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby speed » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:15 pm

Thanks again 93! Can't wait to get the time to read through it all but retaining injectors and ecu certainly saves some dosh :)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
NA6 turbo - 140kw atw - not the most powerful but so much fun :D

User avatar
gslender
Speed Racer
Posts: 2330
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:49 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Brisbane, QLD

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby gslender » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:39 pm

93_Clubman wrote:Also see gslender's posts in following re his adapted M45 setup:
search.php?keywords=supercharge*&terms=all&author=gslender&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search


More specific blog on my adventure on a DIY SC for the NA6.
http://rednels.com/tag/supercharger/

My advice would be to buy a DIY ecu and get that installed and working, then add further mods etc. You will not get a good outcome just slapping on F/I (regardless of type etc) and expect it to work well.

You'll be surprised how much better a tuned exhaust, unrestricted free intake and cam timing can make with an ECU and a good tune. It will completely change how the engine performs!

G
MX5 91 NA6 LE completely stock and loving it!
MX5 92 NA8/ITBs Silver "aka Track Beeotch"

speed
Speed Racer
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:52 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Lugarno, Sydney

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby speed » Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:15 pm

G, thanks for the link and the advice. Have some reading to catch up on :)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
NA6 turbo - 140kw atw - not the most powerful but so much fun :D

speed
Speed Racer
Posts: 3471
Joined: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:52 am
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Lugarno, Sydney

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby speed » Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:50 am

gslender wrote:
93_Clubman wrote:Also see gslender's posts in following re his adapted M45 setup:
search.php?keywords=supercharge*&terms=all&author=gslender&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search


More specific blog on my adventure on a DIY SC for the NA6.
http://rednels.com/tag/supercharger/

My advice would be to buy a DIY ecu and get that installed and working, then add further mods etc. You will not get a good outcome just slapping on F/I (regardless of type etc) and expect it to work well.
G


Enjoyed your wet day at the track vid.
Stupid question; how do you get all that wiz bang data to show? Guessing it comes from the ecu? I want I want.
Would a diypnp give me this info, maybe some extra attachment?

After looking at the various chargers available, I like the m45 and also the sc14.

I'm definitely pro hot side :)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
NA6 turbo - 140kw atw - not the most powerful but so much fun :D

User avatar
gslender
Speed Racer
Posts: 2330
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:49 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Brisbane, QLD

Re: Budget supercharger options???

Postby gslender » Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:26 am

speed wrote:Enjoyed your wet day at the track vid.
Stupid question; how do you get all that wiz bang data to show? Guessing it comes from the ecu? I want I want.
Would a diypnp give me this info, maybe some extra attachment?


Yes, that was done with a DIYPNP and a bluetooth serial and an Android app that records the ecu data along with GPS data... I then just merge the data with video using RaceRender. Not too complex really.

G
MX5 91 NA6 LE completely stock and loving it!
MX5 92 NA8/ITBs Silver "aka Track Beeotch"


Return to “MX5 Forced induction (Turbo/Supercharger)”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 113 guests