How to improve cold start timing in NA8

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How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby GTR4N » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:47 am

Call me a perfectionist but coming from a honda, my previous cars used to start after turning the key and car cranks once and it's on.

On the NA8 I have to hold the key for 3 cranks before it starts, car has yet to not start and excuse my question if that's how theyre supposed to work but if this isn't the case and it should start after the first crank, how do I improve this timing on my car? Is there something I can check or clean?

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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby GTR4N » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:35 am

so have been told that 3 cranks is the norm on a NA8...
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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby NitroDann » Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:04 pm

Is this a joke post? Its definitely fine.
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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby emily_mx5 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:30 pm

Not sure if it's a joke, but I laughed haha


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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby GTR4N » Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:35 pm

Was a serious question people... I'm surprised by the answer (3 cranks is the norm) as I was when told there's no CEL on the car...

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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby sailaholic » Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:40 pm

Cel were dríven my emissions as much as anything else I think.

Probably something to do with the CAS needing to do a full revolution so the ecu know which cylinders to fire.

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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby NitroDann » Fri Aug 08, 2014 3:02 pm

It has a single tooth to allow the ecu to find top dead centre, some cars have up to 36 teeth one for every 10 degrees of 360*. When you have only the top centre tooth for one cylinder the engine needs to cycle to the next full top cycle on the next firing cylinder. The most turns this can be on a 4 cylinder is 3 before firing.

Its just 3 turns its all good.

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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby SuperMazdaKart » Sun Aug 17, 2014 11:36 am

Interesting to know. Over engineering a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist lol.
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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby sailaholic » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:26 am

Funny how most people who join this forum find it extremely helpful and welcoming.

Yet you come here telling everyone they are wrong, bogans, thief's etc etc and aren't happy when no one agrees with your point of view. Going as far to claim where all stupid people who don't actually modify anything and just sit around out cars and talk sh*t.

Given you've now turned to personal sledging as your first post in a thread I can only assume you are infact a troll and you've got tired of the stupid Sydney drive / fake brakes are ok / unequal length tuned header debate.

I have reported the above comment to administration hopefully the thread can be locked before it becomes a useless sh*t fight.

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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby Dupain » Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:22 am

sailaholic wrote:Funny how most people who join this forum find it extremely helpful and welcoming.

Yet you come here telling everyone they are wrong, bogans, thief's etc etc and aren't happy when no one agrees with your point of view. Going as far to claim where all stupid people who don't actually modify anything and just sit around out cars and talk sh*t.

Given you've now turned to personal sledging as your first post in a thread I can only assume you are infact a troll and you've got tired of the stupid Sydney drive / fake brakes are ok / unequal length tuned header debate.

I have reported the above comment to administration hopefully the thread can be locked before it becomes a useless sh*t fight.


Maybe emily_mx5 should learn some manners and stop bullying. What advice was given other laughing at OP. Think about it

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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby emily_mx5 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 10:42 am

Yep I'm a huge failure, and I never help anyone on here.

Stupid questions/trolls are funny, simple as that.

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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby booerns » Tue Aug 19, 2014 11:11 am

Whats your problem with emily_mx5 Dupain? She's done more good for everyone on here than I've ever seen/heard you do, no need to make it personal.

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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby StanTheMan » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:00 pm

Dupain wrote:
sailaholic wrote:Funny how most people who join this forum find it extremely helpful and welcoming.

Yet you come here telling everyone they are wrong, bogans, thief's etc etc and aren't happy when no one agrees with your point of view. Going as far to claim where all stupid people who don't actually modify anything and just sit around out cars and talk sh*t.

Given you've now turned to personal sledging as your first post in a thread I can only assume you are infact a troll and you've got tired of the stupid Sydney drive / fake brakes are ok / unequal length tuned header debate.

I have reported the above comment to administration hopefully the thread can be locked before it becomes a useless sh*t fight.


Maybe emily_mx5 should learn some manners and stop bullying. What advice was given other laughing at OP. Think about it


I thought its a bit on the harsh side.....but anyway. maybe you 2 know each other really well.....


but I gotta say I learned something new today. :mrgreen:

and us old cranky long time posters......do have a part on this forum. I bet none of you remember Auscarcrash forum. LOL
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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby emily_mx5 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:20 pm

StanTheMan wrote:
Dupain wrote:
sailaholic wrote:Funny how most people who join this forum find it extremely helpful and welcoming.

Yet you come here telling everyone they are wrong, bogans, thief's etc etc and aren't happy when no one agrees with your point of view. Going as far to claim where all stupid people who don't actually modify anything and just sit around out cars and talk sh*t.

Given you've now turned to personal sledging as your first post in a thread I can only assume you are infact a troll and you've got tired of the stupid Sydney drive / fake brakes are ok / unequal length tuned header debate.

I have reported the above comment to administration hopefully the thread can be locked before it becomes a useless sh*t fight.


Maybe emily_mx5 should learn some manners and stop bullying. What advice was given other laughing at OP. Think about it


I thought its a bit on the harsh side.....but anyway. maybe you 2 know each other really well.....



I do not know him at all.

I was temporarily offended, then read the Chinese brakes thread haha.

Back to OP, NA mx5s are getting really old, lots of things won't live up to the newer honda you've come from.
But it delivers in so many other ways :D

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Re: How to improve cold start timing in NA8

Postby Dupain » Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:00 pm

emily_mx5 wrote:
StanTheMan wrote:
Dupain wrote:
sailaholic wrote:Funny how most people who join this forum find it extremely helpful and welcoming.

Yet you come here telling everyone they are wrong, bogans, thief's etc etc and aren't happy when no one agrees with your point of view. Going as far to claim where all stupid people who don't actually modify anything and just sit around out cars and talk sh*t.

Given you've now turned to personal sledging as your first post in a thread I can only assume you are infact a troll and you've got tired of the stupid Sydney drive / fake brakes are ok / unequal length tuned header debate.

I have reported the above comment to administration hopefully the thread can be locked before it becomes a useless sh*t fight.


Maybe emily_mx5 should learn some manners and stop bullying. What advice was given other laughing at OP. Think about it


I thought its a bit on the harsh side.....but anyway. maybe you 2 know each other really well.....



I do not know him at all.

I was temporarily offended, then read the Chinese brakes thread haha.

Back to OP, NA mx5s are getting really old, lots of things won't live up to the newer honda you've come from.
But it delivers in so many other ways :D


That's a better response.


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