how much grip is considered fun on the street? (poll within)

kazama · Postby **kazama** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:30 pm

hey guys

just thought id throw the question out there. what level of grip do you think is the all round funnest on the street? and why?

i love having high levels of grip and being able to zip round corners without any signs of protest from my tyres
but i also love rubbish all seasons that wiggle and slide around at the blip of the throttle

interested in hearing your thoughts

inb4: "get a turbo and fry hoosiers in 5th comment". theres always one lol

kalt · Postby **kalt** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:45 pm

After witnessing two cars 'consistently losing grip accelerating from lights' today :roll:

and one car 'fishtail wildly' at an intersection almost losing it completely in front of me :roll:

, probably safe to say your Bob Jane allrounders.

Rain and wet roads seem to bring the hoons out?

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:17 pm

That's because rain is the cheapest horsepower adder.

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Postby **NitroDann** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:21 pm

It also puts brand new tyres on your car immediately after a burnout.

smy0003 · Postby **smy0003** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:25 pm

Got my 5 with 'bluestreaks' all around.
Brand new.
No idea what a bluestreak is, but I've been sliding around Melbourne in this weather.
Spinning wheels going forward, reversing up the drive (pavers) and yes, going round corners.

Tried to kill them at the track but they're still good as new. I'll have to try harder.

It's fun and all, but after a long day sometimes you just want to get home without fearing for yourself and your car.

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StanTheMan · Postby **StanTheMan** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:16 am

its a waste of time putting on racing/semis' you'll kill them within a few months. they also require more warm up....so on the first few corners you'll have sweet ƒü¢k all grip anyway. so you may as well just get some ice skates. You'll unlikely get them to full grip potential.....so its pointless.

decent set of performance road tyres is the way to go. grip when you want to have fun. grip in emergencies when you need it in the wet.
in that particular category I'd perhaps look at how many k's youre most likely to do in 2 years....thats when you will notice a drop in performance from the compound.

A while back I had Azenis RT 215's most exciting tyre i've ever had on a street situation. It lasted me 2 years and about 12k km. It required warming up though. Tyre after that was the Azenis RT 615....much more refined but didn't need so much warming up. But not as exciting to drive on. This is going back to 2005....I doubt either tyre is still available but I'm sure there is a lot more of those type of tires on the market today. I'm not up to date with tyres anymore. I haven dríven in anger for around 5 years.

Tires are a very personal thing. The tire which may make me recite poetry, might be the tire you hate.

StanTheMan · Postby **StanTheMan** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:33 am

if on the other had you go tearing up the tarmac on a abandoned country road with lots of hills & corners. You might get the semis up to temp. But you will certainly notice a massive drop in performance after a few heat cycles. Semis are designed to be dríven to the race track. & give you the grip for racing. But they are affected by heat-cycles just like fully blown racing slicks.

Vat · Postby **Vat** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:43 pm

Interesting topic - I got mine a couple of months ago with Bridgestone MY02 Sporty Style on it (15x6), which, with such a dud name I thought were a cheap Japanese import but found out were actually at the lower end of their "sport" range in Australia.

They actually give pretty decent grip in the dry with reasonable progression and communication to the limit and don't seem to be too noisy, so they've been good to explore the car's handling. Straight line in the wet isn't a strong suit (I've had one or two instances of difficulty launching in the wet at slippery intersections - Sandgate Road's intersection at Rode Road heading northbound is a shocker, with a slick surface and heavy truck usage), but they're nice and progressive on the breakaway in the wet.

As a day-in-day-out road tyre, they're fine.

I guess this question is really "do you want to do low speed dorifto stuff, or fly around corners really quickly"?

I had been thinking about "doing an '86" and putting on some eco type tyres next time around. We'll see. The current tyres are on aftermarket rims with a little more offset and I was thinking about restoring the stockys and swapping the tyres back to them and putting something sticky on the aftermarkets.

Tumbles · Postby **Tumbles** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:53 pm

sailaholic wrote:That's because rain is the cheapest horsepower adder.

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It does act like +100hp though for most cars.

Unrelated to the above, I'm betting Dann voted for racing slicks.

Postby **NitroDann** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:34 pm

I actually didn't vote at all. But my answer for fun as a middle ground compromise is a tyre that allows you to break traction in 3rd but not 4th mid corner.

That will depend on your HP and setup. This means that the car is lively if you want to at all sensible speeds.
Basically as much grip as possible while allowing attitude corrections within the speed limit.