timk makes up for talent with an EFR

timk · Postby **timk** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:32 am

The car is in at MX-5 Plus at the moment getting a few things done. I've had them replace the harmonic balancer with a new one and fit the Protege 36-1 wheel:

It all bolts up perfectly and works fine with the standard crank sensor, obviously you need to reconfigure triggering settings in the ECU to reflect the change.

TieNN89 · Postby **TieNN89** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:14 am

timk · Postby **timk** » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:10 pm

A few changes have been made; MX-5 Plus swapped out my turbo and cleaned up the air intake piping, I'll have to take some photos as Dave did a really good job. As the subframe had to be removed they also fitted my new front shocks and swapped in a depowered steering rack. I'm a big fan of how manual steering loads up on corners!

I've swapped in my coil loom for the Toyota coils:

Also fitted the 949 Racing swaybar endlinks:

Here's one I prepared earlier:

The standard endlink is about 103mm hole to hole, I set these to 95mm and things seemed to be fairly flat with the car sitting on the ground.

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:25 pm

What happened to the keeping it super stock replica se?

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timk · Postby **timk** » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:28 pm

It's still fairly stock!

Space is pretty tight but here's the new turbo setup, it's a BNR turbo designed to work with the standard SE manifold and dump pipe and is based on an EVO3 TD05-16G:

Dave's fabrication work on the intake:

TieNN89 · Postby **TieNN89** » Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:45 pm

Nice!!

james_p93 · Postby **james_p93** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:01 am

LOOKS AMAZING MAN!

Magpie · Postby **Magpie** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:09 am

Looks good, I like the fittings that Plus uses on their oil lines.

To get the preload out of your end links you need to corner weight your car, it is worth it! Once you have done the corner weighting just measure the end links and it will easy to repeat if remove them.

timk · Postby **timk** » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:33 pm

Last week I took a road trip to Hervey Bay to see Bradley Smith at Turning Point and get the car tuned. Here is the car ready to go:

He's using a Dynapack 4000 dyno (the sticker lies), being a hub dyno it is very safe and the readouts are consistent:

A secondary knock sensor was fitted to the head for safety:

Before jumping in, Bradley went over my Adaptronic map to ensure the air correction and injector opening times (dead times) were correct. He also checked the fuel pressure and base timing.

First of all the fuel map was set up so open loop matched the closed loop lambda targets. The dyno made it possible to hit pretty much any load cell at any RPM. The car was then tuned for Mean Best Torque up to 4,000 RPM. Above this range seemed to be full throttle tuning first of all making sure the fuel lambda ranges were safe, then playing with timing. A slow ramp up rate of 250 rpm/sec was used to confirm that the engine would be free of knock under any conditions.

We had a few issues throughout the day:

The wastegate wasn't preloaded enough and was causing intermittent spool issues, we were able to space it with some washers.
The feed for the bleed valve for the turbo was on the same vac line as the MAP sensor for the ECU, so it was throwing the readings off. We added a fitting to the charge pipe near the turbo to hook the bleed valve up to.
The turbo bypass valve was leaking, fortunately I had stiffer springs in the car to swap in.

I also had an oil consumption problem on the dyno, completely filling my 500ml catch can! Bradley said he wasn't able to leave much timing in when in boost, this could be related. I haven't had the car back on the dyno to confirm, but just this week Jason at Automotive Plus tested the PCV valve and it seemed to be leaking pretty drastically. We have since replaced the PCV valve and added a one-way valve from a brake booster line just in case.

The car is certainly lively to drive now!

Cheers

Lokiel · Postby **Lokiel** » Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:46 am

Looking forward to seeing the final dyno charts since you've gone a very unique route so far - will be interesting to see how it compares to GT2560s; if it's comparable then it's a MUCH more practical route for SE owners wanting "MOAR POWER".

For my final tune I was planning on using yem11n's tuner since Dann speaks highly of it and he's dríven enough turbo-MX5s to actually make an unbiased assessment - Bradley at Hervey Bay is a bit closer and an Adaptronic specialist so I may use him instead. Thanks for the detailed report.

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:09 am

Hey Tim, did you ever try the adaptive tuner with usb? Is it just a case of using a standard USB cable from the ecu and a standard one from the phone and adding a gender changer in the middle?

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timk · Postby **timk** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:10 am

sailaholic wrote:Hey Tim, did you ever try the adaptive tuner with usb? Is it just a case of using a standard USB cable from the ecu and a standard one from the phone and adding a gender changer in the middle?

Yeah, I'm using it this way with my Nexus 5 phone. The cable you need is a USB OTG cable. From memory it has an ID pin that dictates who the host is, so a standard gender changer may not work.

Here's the one I'm using (plugged into the USB lead that ships with the Adaptronic):

The logging refresh rate with USB seems to be much quicker than with Bluetooth, but with my old phone (Nexus 4) Bluetooth was the only option.

Cheers

Postby **tomli123001** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:49 pm

I am super keen on this hybrid turbo set up also. Jason recommend to me a number of times already. But unsure of the reliability and power output. Think it uses the same se turbo core and exhaust housing, with everything else changed. What is the max efficient boost you run on this turbo now?

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:31 pm

Sweet I'll give that a go and hope my Rommed galaxy 2 has otg enabled.

Looks like this combined with the innovate sensor module might be a decent alternative to standalone gauges.

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Lokiel · Postby **Lokiel** » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:20 pm

sailaholic wrote:Sweet I'll give that a go and hope my Rommed galaxy 2 has otg enabled.

Looks like this combined with the innovate sensor module might be a decent alternative to standalone gauges.
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Unfortunately phones/tablets can be very hard to read in an MX5 with the top down

Even my PLX DM-100 gauge which is mounted in the cluster's dummy water temperature sensor location can be hard to read with the sun behind me - despite being able too use virtually any colour combinations on the DM100 gauge, I simply use white text on a black background for maximum readability.