What is going on with this spring/shock setup?

[slug_dub]

This week have installed the following on my NA8:
NA KYB AGX
NA Eibach Pro Kit Springs
Fatcat bumpstops
Fatcat NB mounts with the spacer to prevent lowering

The car has come out like this:


The fronts are so low that the top of the tyre is above the top of the guard, I mean its just crazy

So after the car came out like this yesterday, we replaced the front top hats with NA top hats to see if that would make any difference, but of course it doesn't because that is what the spacer from Fatcat does when using the NB mounts - prevents lowering.

Previously on the NA6 I had installed Clubman Bilsteins and King Springs with the very same Fatcat bits and NB mounts and had a similarly amplified rake effect on the front... exemplified here though the rake wasn't as bad:


In both cases the rears have turned out exactly as I expected, and was hoping for.

I can't understand why this NA specific set up has resulted in such extreme lowering at the front (on both of these setups on two different cars I have tried) while the rears have turned out ok. Is it the perch height compared to stock shocks? I feel now that it has happened to me twice that I must have done something wrong in putting it all together but I don't know what it is I have done.

I've had coilovers in this car up til now and changing to a spring/shock setup is because I'm not happy with coilovers for the majority of on road driving that I do. Of course a coilover setup will negate this issue but this kind of difference front to rear is not to be expected with spring/shock combinations... can anyone shed any light on this?

[sailaholic]

add some cement to the boot or delete A/C, Powersteer, and super heavy intake manifold and replace with a light set of ITBs :D

Ok serious now,

Spring the right way around? (Front to back)
Shocks the right way around?
Spring perch the same on front and rear shocks?
NB REAR top hats as well as front? (ie not using spacers on NA rear tophats?

Wondering if maybe it's a combination of too low a spring perch in the front, and the rear spring perch matching, but actually having NA tophats plus spacers on the rear.

[slug_dub]

Springs and shocks are definitely the right way round... If I had put any of the shorter bits on the front the problem would be exacerbated even more.

I did use the NB top hats and spacers on the front and rear and have the above rake. Swapping the front only top hats and spacers back to NA top hats has exactly the same outcome.
Spring perch is the thing to check... I just moved all of the shocks we had laying around to other forum members but will investigate this next.
It has not been apparent to me that the perch height would be different among various shock brands, can't see why they would do that.

[sailaholic]

Did you figure this out slug dub? Mine seems to have the opposite problem if anything, always sitting down in the rear.

I even changed to different springs and shocks last weekend and it's still a bit low in the rear.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk