Urgent help on 6spd gearbox please!!!!

speed freak · Postby **speed freak** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:47 pm

Exactly as above and if they cant provide you a loan car until yours is fixed get a hire car and make them pay for the cost of the hire car until you get your mx5 back.

If you trust your pro mechanic friend that's awesome but Id be stressing greatly to your mechanic friend to get him to rebuild your gearbox and the learner/apprentice has nothing to do with it. At the most get the apprentice to watch but nothing more.

davekmoore · Postby **davekmoore** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:19 pm

Somehow it seems something is not quite right here.

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:40 pm

davekmoore wrote:Somehow it seems something is not quite right here.

You think apprentice = OP?

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davekmoore · Postby **davekmoore** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:51 pm

If true, we should still offer the best possible advice to fit the circumstances. Somehow I'm sensing this might be to find a warranted 5 speed from a wrecker and get it professionally installed.

tescoking · Postby **tescoking** » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:38 am

At the moment I borrowed a car from a friend's father. And I will go back and do the gearbox with my mechanic just in case anything might turn even worse =.=

tescoking · Postby **tescoking** » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:02 pm

After we removed the gearbox today. We have been tilting the gearbox all day, just try to get the pin back in place so we don't need to strip the gearbox. We had a few times get very close. However it just doesn't stay still, it just keep slipping inside. We decided to try it again tomorrow morning, and if its still no luck we will have to strip the gearbox

hks_kansei · Postby **hks_kansei** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:56 am

tescoking wrote:After we removed the gearbox today. We have been tilting the gearbox all day, just try to get the pin back in place so we don't need to strip the gearbox. We had a few times get very close. However it just doesn't stay still, it just keep slipping inside. We decided to try it again tomorrow morning, and if its still no luck we will have to strip the gearbox

If gearbox components can be removed and replaced by tilting you'd have issues everytime you hit a bump.

I really think that the best option is for your friend, or the mechanic, to just buy a secondhand 6 speed box and instal it for you.
It will be much cheaper for them, and easier.

Then they can keep the old box at the shop for practice, or to rebuild and re-sell to cover some of their costs if they want (just make sure to let us know if they rebuild it and sell it so that we all know to not buy any 6speeds in WA

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tescoking · Postby **tescoking** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:52 pm

hks_kansei wrote:
tescoking wrote:After we removed the gearbox today. We have been tilting the gearbox all day, just try to get the pin back in place so we don't need to strip the gearbox. We had a few times get very close. However it just doesn't stay still, it just keep slipping inside. We decided to try it again tomorrow morning, and if its still no luck we will have to strip the gearbox

If gearbox components can be removed and replaced by tilting you'd have issues everytime you hit a bump.

I really think that the best option is for your friend, or the mechanic, to just buy a secondhand 6 speed box and instal it for you.
It will be much cheaper for them, and easier.

Then they can keep the old box at the shop for practice, or to rebuild and re-sell to cover some of their costs if they want (just make sure to let us know if they rebuild it and sell it so that we all know to not buy any 6speeds in WA )

Haha, ok, I will remember. Anyway, I will head back to their shop and see what are we going to do next.

hks_kansei · Postby **hks_kansei** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:58 pm

I really do think though that the best option for everybody is that they simply buy another gearbox.

If they rebuild yours they will no doubt have expenses for parts, and labour. Then other expenses in case something goes wrong in the rebuild.

Where if they buy a second gearbox, it's as simple as bolting it up, and you all go on your merry way.

I think 6 speed boxes sell for $1,000 or something, so it should be both cheaper, and a lot faster, than a rebuild.
AS I said earlier, even cheaper again for them if they sell the old gearbox (even if it's still broken, sell it as parts for a few hundred)

davekmoore · Postby **davekmoore** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:50 pm

Why are you helping them?

tescoking · Postby **tescoking** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:17 pm

Friendship is beyond money, if they tried and really can't fix it then I will ask them to get a 2nd hand 6speed for me.

hejira · Postby **hejira** » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:40 pm

tescoking what is your car's VIN number?

Gladiator · Postby **Gladiator** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:03 pm

Is your friend, a) running his OWN REGISTERED BUSINESS? or, b) was he doing it as a cashy on the weekend? i.e.: Is he insured or not?
If the answer is a), it's a no brainer. If it's b), well......INTERESTING.

tescoking · Postby **tescoking** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:35 pm

Gladiator wrote:Is your friend, a) running his OWN REGISTERED BUSINESS? or, b) was he doing it as a cashy on the weekend? i.e.: Is he insured or not?
If the answer is a), it's a no brainer. If it's b), well......INTERESTING.

a) running his OWN REGISTERED BUSINESS?

but i am not sure does he have insurance

mr bender · Postby **mr bender** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:47 pm

Pamex wrote:It is their responsibility to fix it.

At our work, I do all the gearboxes and overdrives. A few weeks back, a small component of an overdrive I built wasn't quite right (sticky pump). I converted his non-overdrive box to one with an fully rebuilt overdrive and fully rebuilt box. It worked, just not the best it could. Guess what? I rebuilt it. The customer didn't pay. It was our responsibility to fix it (and it's bloody beautiful now!).

That's the way it works.

That was an engine and gearbox out twice to do the job. Did it cost my boss? Yes. Should the customer have paid? Absolutely not. Does anyone want to have to take an engine and gearbox out a second time? Hell no, but that's the job.

Mistakes happen. Sometimes small, sometimes big. It's all part of running any business, not just mechanical.

I know you feel bad putting this on your friend, but it is really their responsibility and to be honest, they should have offered to fix it for you with a loan car in the meantime.

Don't cop a few grand for a rebuild.

EDIT: Just saw your updated post. If the newbie is doing it, when you get it back and drive it, if it is not the same or better, follow up straight away. Sorry, but that's really bad they flocked up something elemental like an oil change. Make sure it is right. If you go down the path of 'while it's out, let's refresh it' rather than just re-assembling... I'd probably suggest taking it to someone who knows what they're doing. You tend to end up with components of the wrong metal, wrong clearances (very important) etc. if they're replacing parts. Even if following the manual, if they've never done something like this before and get new or 'brand new second hand' parts, they can be wrong and it will go bad a few thousand k down the road. I get cranky about this. I reckon just get them to re-assemble. Piece of cake. You should have it back in a couple of days.

this^^^

its a simple job to do.

Yes the gearbox has to come out , the case has to be split, then put the bolt back in and reassemble.
its not rocket science, Im sure the mechanic will be able to do that.

of course you shouldn't be paying them for that.

if there isn't anything wrong with the gearbox why rebuild it?

and last but not lease, you don't want to get in the habit of
"its to hard buy a new one" (because that's how you learn from your mistakes)

and the best thing about this whole sager, you know it wont happen again , you will still have a friend and now you can do your own oil changes.