Paint buffing question

Pamex · Postby **Pamex** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:05 pm

Sorry Mr. Morlock, you say $3k is cheap for a paint job.

And it is.

Some people just don't have that kind of cash lying around.

By the way, you know the basic costs I put up there? If you want to do a proper job at home, with enough materials, at non-trade prices, you'll be heading towards a few grand in no time for the set up. Ventilation, air and proper lighting are the big killers. If you're going to do it properly, and safely as you suggest Morlock, a grand is still skimping.

I wouldn't bother with the following, but some people like to invest in special covered lighting too, as there is a fire risk with exposed power points. Not something I'd bother with, but it is all something to factor in. Good lighting is essential. I'd rather not have runs all through my paint job, but I am a bit OCD that way.

There's also the need for a PROPER paint mask, not just some dust cover like some people use. There's a reason painters suffer from collapsed lungs. This is actually a bit of kit I WOULDN'T skimp on.

Ok, well, I lie, I'd just borrow the massive regulator mask from work. :mrgreen:

Buying a compressor is easy and cheap. If you're doing a whole car, you want a decent flow rate, fill rate and capacity. You also want filters on it so you don't end up with super moist paint. More cash. Hire? That can be more expensive than finding one second hand.

How many coats are you doing? What time are you doing them? Your neighbours are going to love constant compressor noise.

So Morlock, we get it, you think it's terrible. That's fine, that's your opinion.

This is not a topic on safety or legal related issues, or issues that affect anyone else but the owner of the car.

You've stated your opinion. There's no reason to keep ramming it down everyone's throats. As you'll see from the above... I can preach at people as well, and being female I can go on for hours. Chill out. It's cuppa time mate. :beer:

meanmx · Postby **meanmx** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:09 pm

Pam I'll shout you a :beer:

next time I see you

lizard · Postby **lizard** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:37 pm

Q: Why are woman's feet on average shorter than men's ?
A: So they can stand closer to the sink !

Pamex · Postby **Pamex** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:29 pm

That's why women are better singers. We're always in synch.

Ben: See you tonight. Heheh.

Giselle · Postby **Giselle** » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:59 pm

As always, haters 'gon hate.

It's my first car and only cost $3,000. I've been asked to sell the hardtop for $1,000. That leaves me $2,000 out of pocket, if I sell the roof.

No way in hell am I spending anywhere between $1,000 - $3,000 to paint a $2,000 car. Being my first car, realistically I'll probably only own it a few years anyway.

It's not even a matter of whether or not I can afford to spend $3k on a paint job- it's a matter of being absolutely ridiculous to put a $3,000 paintjob on a $2,000 car. Do I look like a Honda Civic driver or something?!

And it's all moot anyway- the roller job looks better than the "original" paint and that's all that matters!

green_comet · Postby **green_comet** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:23 am

Don't stress man, there are plenty of people here that are actually interested in seeing the outcome. Try to ignore the giant douche bag that goes around offering his unwanted opinions everywhere he goes.

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Old Dude · Postby **Old Dude** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:23 am

There was this dilapidated old boat at the boat show that had one side left original and the other side was roller painted with a certain marine paint, and the finish on that was as good as or pretty darn close to a spray finish :wink:

. I was amazed :shock:

Good luck with the job interested to see how it turns out :beer:

Cheers
Dale

Mr Morlock · Postby **Mr Morlock** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:26 am

The idea of forums is to canvas ideas- otherwise why post questions? Not all ideas are good ones and nor are all responses . People thinking that cars painted with marine paint may have missed something I think.

Apu · Postby **Apu** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:46 am

The thing is Morlock, your typical reaction is more often than not to fob off ideas.

Have you painted a boat before? I have...quite a few times in fact, using International Paint products. And you can achieve a very smooth finish just by sanding and rolling, or even brushing.

A couple of friends painted their cars with marine paint (helps that they have ties to International) and the outcome was excellent. Sure they used the proper equipment, but it is also a much more durable paint - very resistant to stone chips because of it's flexibility.

So to the OP, keep going - we're all keen to see the outcome and I completely subscribe to your view about how much you are spending on the paint job relative to the cost of your car. Very sensible!

TTT · Postby **TTT** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:46 am

A guy on another forum painted his car with marine paint..

Did a quick little write up in this post..

http://performanceforums.com/forums/sho ... t841393017

iphone quality pictures here...
http://performanceforums.com/forums/sho ... t841364948

As the OP said.. it's a $3K car... you've got nothing to lose mate.
Good on you for having a go.

Apu · Postby **Apu** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:50 am

I should also add, International came out with a new product a couple of years ago - can't remember the name now... something-lac. You can brush or roll it on, and if applied properly, will dry almost spray like.

I'm going to try it after I strip out the inside of my car.

Apu · Postby **Apu** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:55 am

Just got a response from my friend, the product is Awlgrip - a topcoat paint.

...not bloody-lac like I said earlier.

taminga16 · Postby **taminga16** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:56 am

While I would never do it myself, I admire Giselle for the tenacity that they show, there have been some really interesting paint jobs pop up over the past few years. Hooded Reapers paint incarnations were great and there has been at least one other contributor with a roller job. Pam is correct, paint is not cheap! my red BMW (motorcycle) paint job ran out to $1000.00. Hot rodders are filtering the fillers out of paint and producing very flat finishes ATM very 'de rigour'.
Greg.
And as for Lizard' s pathetic contribution :roll:

, "Why do some men only date women with really small hands?"

wassup · Postby **wassup** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:17 am

Painting the car this way would not be my approach irrespective of the value of the car but I am curious as to how it turns out - its because of owners like you that there is a wealth of info out there on the mx5. Good luck! I watch with interest.

Mr Morlock wrote:The idea of forums is to canvas ideas- otherwise why post questions? Not all ideas are good ones and nor are all responses .

To Mr Morlock, I agree, and in the 2 years I've been a member of this forum I've seen you consistently say this but why is it more often than not you seem to be at the sharp end of a bad response? Time to turn a new leaf and be more constructive in your contributions, give it a try or consider calling it a day?
Think about it. :idea:

meanmx · Postby **meanmx** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:19 am

Mr Morlock wrote:The idea of forums is to canvas ideas- otherwise why post questions? Not all ideas are good ones and nor are all responses . People thinking that cars painted with marine paint may have missed something I think.

The problem is that you have no tolerance for other ideas. You think that what you say is the absolute undeniable fact and anyone that doesn't believe you is an idiot. With that sort of thinking there would be no MX5 for you to enjoy. People have told you this time and time again but you keep spouting the same negativity. 4500 mostly useless posts and counting.