MrSchlim's SE
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MrSchlim's SE
(Yet Another SE Thread)
Since I’ve learned much from other garage threads myself, I thought perhaps it was my turn to contribute.
Here she is when I first bought her (October 2011):
Negatives: shocking wheel alignment, lousy tyres (sounded like a light aircraft on the freeway), poorly maintained interior.
Positives: Full service history, good body work and no signs of being bent - bumper respray notwithstanding. I decided to roll the dice…
Before collecting the car, I booked it in for a wheel alignment at Heasman’s and new Star Specs from Garry’s Motorsport. No surprises with the wheel alignment, aside from being a little more direct off centre.
The improvement from the tyre upgrade (set from the dealer were mismatched Silverstones and Nexens) was dramatic; huge improvement in steering response, got rid of most of the noise and all vibration disappeared. After taking the car for a spin up the Old Road I found the spark I was looking for, with the MX5 living up to the hype.
Happy that the platform was a sound base for a track car, it was time for the first mods; a set of braided lines and Hawke pads, a hardtop (never been a fan of open air motoring) and BD rollbar. Armed with the new tyres and fresh brakes, the car pulled a glacial 1:15.3 at Wakefield Park. Not too shabby for a something that had 97kw ATW I s’pose, but a little disappointing nonetheless.
Whilst I did some research on the right path to go down (learnt much from reading Lokiel’s write up) I decided to get a set of 15x8” PF01’s shod with NT01’s for the track.
As you can see, heaps of dive under heavy braking. I’m sure there would have been squat too, if the car had any power anyway…
The tyres alone brought the lap time down by a little over 2 seconds with a new best of 1:13.8 followed a week or two later with a 1:13.1. I’m thinking the cooler weather on the day may have been the reason for the improvement.
I thought now was the right to start chasing a little more power and perhaps a little chassis work, thus the bolt-on process started.
Step 1:
Step 2:
Step 3 (all smooth so far):
Step 4 (SNAFU):
This “kit” was an absolute pain in the arse to fit… Pain in the arse, because nothing fit the car without modification; the exhaust didn’t align, the cooler pipes wouldn't clear aircon lines and the cooler itself was fouling on the condenser mounts. After much swearing, grazed knuckles and copious amounts of alcohol, we got there.
The modifications yielded exactly the result I was chasing - probably best to avoid the raw number and instead look at the delta. The end result of these mods and the tune to go with them was an additional 58kw at the wheels. The raw number was 155kw.
The more exciting bit (to me) was the drop in lap times; the first time out with the power mods, I ran a 1:10.5, with the car doing this easily. A month later I was out there again but strangely a little slower with a best of 1:10.8, and the car felt a little more flighty on corner exit.
After a little head scratching I had the rear toe setting changed a tad 2mm in, and found some third-time’s-a-charm luck, finally dipping into the 1:09’s (9.8 ) this time last year. I’ve not been able to get back to this time - thanks to bad weather and worse luck on the few track days I’ve made it to.
Since I’ve learned much from other garage threads myself, I thought perhaps it was my turn to contribute.
Here she is when I first bought her (October 2011):
Negatives: shocking wheel alignment, lousy tyres (sounded like a light aircraft on the freeway), poorly maintained interior.
Positives: Full service history, good body work and no signs of being bent - bumper respray notwithstanding. I decided to roll the dice…
Before collecting the car, I booked it in for a wheel alignment at Heasman’s and new Star Specs from Garry’s Motorsport. No surprises with the wheel alignment, aside from being a little more direct off centre.
The improvement from the tyre upgrade (set from the dealer were mismatched Silverstones and Nexens) was dramatic; huge improvement in steering response, got rid of most of the noise and all vibration disappeared. After taking the car for a spin up the Old Road I found the spark I was looking for, with the MX5 living up to the hype.
Happy that the platform was a sound base for a track car, it was time for the first mods; a set of braided lines and Hawke pads, a hardtop (never been a fan of open air motoring) and BD rollbar. Armed with the new tyres and fresh brakes, the car pulled a glacial 1:15.3 at Wakefield Park. Not too shabby for a something that had 97kw ATW I s’pose, but a little disappointing nonetheless.
Whilst I did some research on the right path to go down (learnt much from reading Lokiel’s write up) I decided to get a set of 15x8” PF01’s shod with NT01’s for the track.
As you can see, heaps of dive under heavy braking. I’m sure there would have been squat too, if the car had any power anyway…
The tyres alone brought the lap time down by a little over 2 seconds with a new best of 1:13.8 followed a week or two later with a 1:13.1. I’m thinking the cooler weather on the day may have been the reason for the improvement.
I thought now was the right to start chasing a little more power and perhaps a little chassis work, thus the bolt-on process started.
Step 1:
Step 2:
Step 3 (all smooth so far):
Step 4 (SNAFU):
This “kit” was an absolute pain in the arse to fit… Pain in the arse, because nothing fit the car without modification; the exhaust didn’t align, the cooler pipes wouldn't clear aircon lines and the cooler itself was fouling on the condenser mounts. After much swearing, grazed knuckles and copious amounts of alcohol, we got there.
The modifications yielded exactly the result I was chasing - probably best to avoid the raw number and instead look at the delta. The end result of these mods and the tune to go with them was an additional 58kw at the wheels. The raw number was 155kw.
The more exciting bit (to me) was the drop in lap times; the first time out with the power mods, I ran a 1:10.5, with the car doing this easily. A month later I was out there again but strangely a little slower with a best of 1:10.8, and the car felt a little more flighty on corner exit.
After a little head scratching I had the rear toe setting changed a tad 2mm in, and found some third-time’s-a-charm luck, finally dipping into the 1:09’s (9.8 ) this time last year. I’ve not been able to get back to this time - thanks to bad weather and worse luck on the few track days I’ve made it to.
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Re: MrSchlim's SE
Hi,
Welcome.
Nice mods you got there. More SEs now on the forum but everyone have different ways of modding their cars and good thing there are a lot of aftermarket upgrades for MX5.
I have the Ohlins too. Can you tell me what I the ride height yu it it set to?
Welcome.
Nice mods you got there. More SEs now on the forum but everyone have different ways of modding their cars and good thing there are a lot of aftermarket upgrades for MX5.
I have the Ohlins too. Can you tell me what I the ride height yu it it set to?
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yem11n wrote:Hi,
Welcome.
Nice mods you got there. More SEs now on the forum but everyone have different ways of modding their cars and good thing there are a lot of aftermarket upgrades for MX5.
I have the Ohlins too. Can you tell me what I the ride height yu it it set to?
IIRC it's ~15mm lower than stock, so not much lower than factory ride height. The lap times were all done at the factory ride height, before lowering and adding the camber kit. Not sure if there will be an improvement but we'll see soon enough...
Good excuse for me to whore out pictures of her... These are current pictures:
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Looks great!
If you had access to a car like this, would you take it back right away? Neither would I.
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This forum can never have enough SE threads!
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MadMikey wrote:This forum can never have enough SE threads!
+1
Car looks great, and those are terrific times around Wakefield.
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+1
Looks fantastic. Glad to see another Velocity Red one.
Looks fantastic. Glad to see another Velocity Red one.
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OHLINS - looks like you're doing it right first time.
What intercooler kit is that?
Also, can you give your thoughts on your selection of the Vi-PEC ECU? (ie. why you chose it and any pros/cons you found)
"After much swearing, grazed knuckles and copious amounts of alcohol, we got there."
- that's called "bonding with the car"
What intercooler kit is that?
Also, can you give your thoughts on your selection of the Vi-PEC ECU? (ie. why you chose it and any pros/cons you found)
"After much swearing, grazed knuckles and copious amounts of alcohol, we got there."
- that's called "bonding with the car"
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Garage Thread: http://www.mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=76716
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Thanks all
I'm happy with the Ohlins, they pretty much lived up to the hype.
The exhaust, IC and airbox are all from SMB. TBH, the quality isn't what I'd hoped, and wouldn't hold a candle to the fabrication that I've seen in NitroDann's or RXMX's threads. I would say that I didn't make the right decision there... but at least it made a solid improvement to power.
On the plus side, the kit looks OEM when installed in the car.
The choice of ViPec was mainly because I know and trust two very good, experienced tuners that know the software and ECU inside-out. So far so good; fuel economy, cold start, power delivery and smoothness are all what I expected. There's not much more I could ask for to be honest.
I haven't really scratched the surface of the functionality of this ECU, down the track I'd like to get a flex sensor installed and have the tune adjusted to suit E85, and probably start using the gear-based boost control too. Not really a concern until I've decided on the turbo and bottom end upgrade path though.
Lokiel wrote:OHLINS - looks like you're doing it right first time.
What intercooler kit is that?
Also, can you give your thoughts on your selection of the Vi-PEC ECU? (ie. why you chose it and any pros/cons you found)
"After much swearing, grazed knuckles and copious amounts of alcohol, we got there."
- that's called "bonding with the car"
I'm happy with the Ohlins, they pretty much lived up to the hype.
The exhaust, IC and airbox are all from SMB. TBH, the quality isn't what I'd hoped, and wouldn't hold a candle to the fabrication that I've seen in NitroDann's or RXMX's threads. I would say that I didn't make the right decision there... but at least it made a solid improvement to power.
On the plus side, the kit looks OEM when installed in the car.
The choice of ViPec was mainly because I know and trust two very good, experienced tuners that know the software and ECU inside-out. So far so good; fuel economy, cold start, power delivery and smoothness are all what I expected. There's not much more I could ask for to be honest.
I haven't really scratched the surface of the functionality of this ECU, down the track I'd like to get a flex sensor installed and have the tune adjusted to suit E85, and probably start using the gear-based boost control too. Not really a concern until I've decided on the turbo and bottom end upgrade path though.
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Really nice car mate. With well thought out mods too. Im considering upgrading to an SE from my NA (which has ohlins) and have been curious as to how NB's sit on ohlins. From the looks of yours they sit almost perfectly! Even more tempting to upgrade after seeing this .
Will be following your progress.
Will be following your progress.
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So I had a bit of a play at Wakefield on Monday...
I ran out of time to get a set of R-compounds in my size before the track day so ended up on my RS3 street tyres instead. Steering feel isn't great and there is a fair amount of squirm happening under heavy braking. They were good for 4-5 hard laps before turning to mush.
Overall, they're very good as far as street tyres go, getting consistent low 1:11's in my car.
I was just over half a second faster on R888s (225/50/15) and a second faster on the Nitto NT01s in the same size (225/45/15).
In other news, I've had enough of the standard turbo. It's time for an proper setup.
I ran out of time to get a set of R-compounds in my size before the track day so ended up on my RS3 street tyres instead. Steering feel isn't great and there is a fair amount of squirm happening under heavy braking. They were good for 4-5 hard laps before turning to mush.
Overall, they're very good as far as street tyres go, getting consistent low 1:11's in my car.
I was just over half a second faster on R888s (225/50/15) and a second faster on the Nitto NT01s in the same size (225/45/15).
In other news, I've had enough of the standard turbo. It's time for an proper setup.
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Did you get around to upgrading the turbo on this?
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Cal wrote:Did you get around to upgrading the turbo on this?
Changed my mind. I did a full cost breakdown on engine upgrades, turbo, customer manifold, dump, re-tune etc... It's north of 10K all done and dusted. I put up the car for sale.
I'll probably grab an older, lighter NA, pull everything out of it, do a basic turbo setup and have cashish left over. Or better yet, find one that is all completed
It may make a little less power, but it'll be lighter and I'd be less reluctant to chop unnecessary bits out of an older car. Lack of airbags, abs and power steering are all pluses.
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