Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby 16bit » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:01 pm

my experience with ebay extractors is pipe thickness is not enough and they are almost never flat.
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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby bootz » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:18 pm

What do you mean by 'flat' How can a header be 'flat' :?:
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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby NitroDann » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:23 pm

It has 2 flanges, both of which need to be flat, the head flange is warped often.

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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby bootz » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:04 pm

NitroDann wrote:It has 2 flanges, both of which need to be flat, the head flange is warped often.

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Yeah, I could see how that would be a bitch.
I would give them a try, price is right, but the gain on a NB8B would be insignificant. :(
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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby 16bit » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:32 pm

what dann said.
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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby mazdaz » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:19 pm

Turned up today....seem to look like any other header unit i have seen...will post pics and get a vid of before and after noise.

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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby tiggsh » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:14 am

Could you measure the outer and inner diameters of the runners just for comparisons sake?

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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby Snowmotion » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:58 am

My set also turned up yesterday. I have not had a good look at it yet but I was pleased to see they supplied 2 gaskets and bolts which was not mentioned on the ebay listing.

Looking at the position on the o2 sensor I am presuming I will need to lengthen the o2 sensor wire.
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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby mazdaz » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:06 pm

Yes you will need to lengthen as the o2 bung seems to be further down. I was going to replace mine anyway as i am unsure if it has ever been done.

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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby Evil Panda » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:56 pm

Put a set of these on over the weekend just to try them out.
No noticeable change except for a little more volume above 4000rpm.
I'll see what happens when my cat and exhaust arrive.

Flanges were fine. Checked them with the straight edge before install... all good.
6 days in and no issues.
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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby NitroDann » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:05 pm

200 dollars for 'no noticeable change'..?

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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby Evil Panda » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:10 pm

NitroDann wrote:200 dollars for 'no noticeable change'..?

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I had a cracked weld on the old rusted unit, so figured $169 wasn't too bad as I plan to turbo down the track and it will have a short life in the car.
I wasn't expecting anything impressive at that price point. :wink:

Mind you, I've only dríven it to work a couple times. Which is literally 3 blocks away.
I'll take it out on the weekend and give it a real trial.
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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby NitroDann » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:18 pm

Its a shame they didnt make any more power on your setup, Id have given you a stock set :)

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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby Evil Panda » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:24 pm

I've been watching your build on FB.
I'll probably be in touch when it's turbo time. :wink:

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Re: Cheap ebay 'Empire Performance' extractors anyone?

Postby mazdaz » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:28 pm

How did you go with the o2 sensor...any dramas?


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