How to turbo your NA for $2000.

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby DanZig » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:38 pm

In SA you essentially you just need to submit the modification form and pass the IM240 test. I've got the form stipulating that and afaik there's at least two legal turbo's here.

I've gotta say great work again Dann. Very helpful thread indeed. How would you feel if If I paid for your ticket to SA and kept you going with a constant supply of beer? :beer: :lol:

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby NitroDann » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:40 pm

Great for me but you will have the worst most unreliable and very fastest (to blow itself up) NA turbo around haha.

I already have another build very similar to this in the build, deposit down :)

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby kenson » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:58 pm

DanZig wrote:In SA you essentially you just need to submit the modification form and pass the IM240 test. I've got the form stipulating that and afaik there's at least two legal turbo's here.

I've gotta say great work again Dann. Very helpful thread indeed. How would you feel if If I paid for your ticket to SA and kept you going with a constant supply of beer? :beer: :lol:


Haha, I've been thinking this for a while now ever since Dann started work on Lokiel's car. When it gets a bit quiet at work, I might have to have a long holiday and drive my car over :shock:

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby rossint » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:00 pm

If you were by chance planning a trip to Adelaide you'd need to factor in enough time to do my car as well :D I think you should get a van and take your act on the road.

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby Apu » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:10 pm

Not such a crazy idea. Get a bunch of guys together, organise it like a group buy...job done.

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby DanZig » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:13 pm

We just need a massive shed so we can all follow Dann's lead at installing the parts... Then we'll drink beer and blow them up hah.

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby NitroDann » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:30 pm

Why dont I send the parts out and we can all do the install together by Skype conference call?

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby DanZig » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:34 pm

That's a great idea hah. I've actually already got nearly everything I need.

Back on track, what actuator did you use? I've got 3 here but two are 7psi (off t25 redtop sr and t03 rb25) and the other 10psi (t03 rb20). Without cooler and using just stock injectors I'd imagine I want to keep it about 5.

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby NitroDann » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:42 pm

I used a 7PSI GT2560 actuator, and had no hastles at all. It will probably end up at 10 psi ish after a tune.

The old 4-5psi max for no intercooler thing is based on bandaides. Not proper ecus and dyno tuning.

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby BLU-125 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:48 pm

I have learned a great deal from this thread, both in information and direction to look for more information.

Thank you......... ;)

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby NitroDann » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:00 pm

Thankyou for reading BLU125, thats the idea.

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby Sean » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:26 pm

NitroDann wrote:It owes me WELL under 1500.

MANY said it couldnt be done on the earlier thread about turbocharging costs.

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I don't recall the thread but I'm sure I'd have been a doubter for reasons already stated here...

Doing the sums, even based on your figures and assuming rock bottom prices on all parts I can't see it being well under $1500, the number you mention doesn't account for consumables or time, so again it's unrealistic for the average punter. As I said before, it seems the only way the average punter could do it is to have you do it for them.

At the end of the day it's a reasonable package, but what most people are arguing costs $5k or $10k is something very different to this.
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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby Aussie Stig » Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:43 pm

Sean wrote:
NitroDann wrote:It owes me WELL under 1500.

MANY said it couldnt be done on the earlier thread about turbocharging costs.

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I don't recall the thread but I'm sure I'd have been a doubter for reasons already stated here...

Doing the sums, even based on your figures and assuming rock bottom prices on all parts I can't see it being well under $1500, the number you mention doesn't account for consumables or time, so again it's unrealistic for the average punter. As I said before, it seems the only way the average punter could do it is to have you do it for them.

At the end of the day it's a reasonable package, but what most people are arguing costs $5k or $10k is something very different to this.


I think for a rock bottom $ DIY job he has well proved his point and put his money where his mouth is.
Though without welding/fabrication and turbo skills the average punter would have to pay extra to replicate. But if they got Dann to oversee the project they would not be paying horrendously extra.
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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby NitroDann » Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:38 pm

Sean wrote:
NitroDann wrote:It owes me WELL under 1500.

MANY said it couldnt be done on the earlier thread about turbocharging costs.

Dann



I don't recall the thread but I'm sure I'd have been a doubter for reasons already stated here...

Doing the sums, even based on your figures and assuming rock bottom prices on all parts I can't see it being well under $1500, the number you mention doesn't account for consumables or time, so again it's unrealistic for the average punter. As I said before, it seems the only way the average punter could do it is to have you do it for them.

At the end of the day it's a reasonable package, but what most people are arguing costs $5k or $10k is something very different to this.


My next mx5 project is the same as this but with inconel hardware, full front mount setup, bov, injectors etc etc.

We will see how it goes.

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Re: How to turbo your NA for $2000.

Postby Sean » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:04 am

The value here (to me at least) isn't if it costs $1500, $2000 or $20,000, its more about showing the process.

It's be awesome if the owners follows through to engineering and future costs. I did a big post about engineering a few years back, but that was the old system.

In terms of on costs that many of us quote for doing a turbo swap, people may be interested to know the MCM mx5 that was similarly built as a budget banger has recently come across the challenges we expected. 1.6 diff is now busted an they're fitting a bigger 1.8 one. Clutch is also getting soft and it's still not engineered.
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