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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby beavis » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:25 pm

Very nice time.
Wish i had that suspension damnit.
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby bensale » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:23 pm

You're fast enough as it is! Haha ;)
I think a lot of MX-5 people don't realise the differences between something like the BC, Tiens or the Koni / King style setups compared to the higher end stuff. Certainally was an eye opener for me!
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby corners » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:25 pm

bensale wrote:You're fast enough as it is! Haha ;)
I think a lot of MX-5 people don't realise the differences between something like the BC, Tiens or the Koni / King style setups compared to the higher end stuff. Certainally was an eye opener for me!


Wonder how they compare to the MCA stuff
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby bensale » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:30 pm

MCA make good stuff. Don't think they have an MX-5 setup on the market quite yet.. They used to be fitted to most of the front running Tarmac rally cars (which i think is a tangible testing ground) but now all the guys who are winning and on the podium run KWs.

In Europe KW has also basically taken most of the racing market from Ohlins too..
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby corners » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:32 pm

bensale wrote:MCA make good stuff. Don't think they have an MX-5 setup on the market quite yet..


They're not far away...
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby bensale » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:36 pm

I know they've got it in development. It's good to see more options better than the old standard of the Bilstein PSS9 on the market for MX-5s. And at a better price point than Ohlins & Penske.
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby beavis » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:04 pm

MCA are on all the top running WTAC cars.
They and KW are all in a different price bracket to your average track day attendee.

Only teruo can spend Penske money.
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby bensale » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:30 pm

Weitec is KWs lower priced brand. Same tech, same factory & about $1200 for an MX-5. Even without some the features and adjustments of the KW competitions they'd be in a different league to similarly priced competitors.

MCA did get 1-2-3 there last year which is pretty impressive. KW were 1-2-3 at Targa (Lamborghini, GTR, TTRS) until the TTRS blew a turbo.
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby bensale » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:53 am

Haven't had much chance to drive the car lately, works been crazy. We managed to make it to Phillip Island for half the day on the 17th though which was awesome fun!

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Alex had her first go at P.I and despite only getting two sessions out there before we had to go managed to crack into the 2:03s which is pretty epic for a first time! I think if we stayed the whole day at the rate the times were falling a 2:01 would have been achievable.

I missed out on any PBs as I got the suspension settings wrong in the first flying session. I trying a new setup due to limitations in a few corners last time out (where I did a 57.7). Annoyingly in the first session the car had understeer, the front tyres were 15deg down on the rears (which were at optimum temp) and so I made some changes to the compression and rebound settings to fix it. What made me really happy was that next session it was perfect, hitting target temp on all four tyres with less than a 5 deg variance across the face of the tyre. The car was also amazing through Southern loop, Siberia and Lukey Heights which are good test corners. The track was a bit hot by that stage, but the car felt amazing while hitting consistent 58.1s and 58.2s. With the right conditions and a few brave pills I think there is a 56 in the car, just need to get everything right in the first cooler session.
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby beavis » Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:26 am

Too fast for a 1.6
Slow down would you.
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby NitroDann » Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:44 am

bensale wrote:Weitec is KWs lower priced brand. Same tech, same factory & about $1200 for an MX-5. Even without some the features and adjustments of the KW competitions they'd be in a different league to similarly priced competitors.


That explains it, I have Apu, Bryan's NB8C here with weitec's and it is extremely well damped.

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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby Apu » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:18 am

In some ways...I didn't really want to know that :lol:

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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby bensale » Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:54 pm

beavis wrote:Too fast for a 1.6
Slow down would you.


Haha! Like you can talk... :) Not sure how many road registered 1600 cars would have been quicker around P.I, if any? I think with good conditions and me getting the lap perfect a 1:56 is possible.

Looks alright out there too :)

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Glad to hear you're impressed with the Weitec's Dann! I love my KWs, completely transformed the car & made it much more enjoyable to drive :)
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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby bensale » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:46 pm

We went up to Winton again last weekend for another thrash, unfortunately in my first session after a few laps the brake peddle suddenly went straight to the floor braking for a corner. Turns out of the (braided) brake lines had a slit in it. Unsurprisingly no replacements in NE Victoria so it was a pretty short day. It was a bit disappointing as the last few sections of the day were to be on the Winton Short track which is a favourite of mine but I've only had the chance to do one day in that configuration a few years ago.. Couldn't be too disappointed as amazingly this was the first time the car had broken at a track day in the 5 years I've ran it.

Video below is one of the laps before the car broke, the track was covered in oil and also rubber from a drift day the day before. Was still fun & the helmet cam was a cool shot:)

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Re: Ben Sale's white 1990 NA6

Postby beavis » Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:01 am

Nice work backing the car into the first boob.

It's time you got an NB8B and come join the sub 1:40 club. I am offering you entry. It is very exclusive.
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