Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby Mr Morlock » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:54 pm

93 commented " Sounds like it might be just a punters thoughts based on his/ her perception of some experience. And without a reference, it's just another quote, & as we know you can find someone, somewhere that says anything you want to support a issue, such is the nature of information".
I agree. You can get 10 opinions on oil and maybe none of them are really "informed". Basing whether an oil is good on seat of the pants criteria is unreliable and unscientific. The fact that I am satisfied with a standard Castrol oil is here nor there- I accept a manual gearbox is an imperfect device and when it warms up it improves- Aussie stig is right I think. A Castrol ( BP) or a Shell are actually oil co's and can produce a variety of quality oils with massive resources backing them.

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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby project.r.racing » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:49 am

Again GL-5 is fine as long as it has a military spec attached.

MX5 gearboxes are not the only Mazda gearboxes with brass synchos built in the 90s and early 00s. All this has been tried and tested and proven before.

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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby Aussie Stig » Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:18 pm

project.r.racing wrote:Again GL-5 is fine as long as it has a military spec attached.

MX5 gearboxes are not the only Mazda gearboxes with brass synchos built in the 90s and early 00s. All this has been tried and tested and proven before.


I am sure the aisen 6spd was also used in RX-7 and Lexus. I wonder what they are using.
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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby Aussie Stig » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:47 pm

I would have thought the gearbox oil would never wear out as it is a sealed system but apparently it should be changed about every five years/75K

Looks like something I should be scheduling as I am sure it has never been changed in 10years.
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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby manga_blue » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:46 am

Mr Morlock wrote: A Castrol ( BP) or a Shell are actually oil co's and can produce a variety of quality oils with massive resources backing them.
The big brands, Mobil, Shell and BP (Castrol) have quality oil manufacturing plants in Europe and Nth America. Unfortunately oils branded Mobil, Shell or Castrol made in those plants are not sold here in the mainstream channels. The oils they do sell here are mostly made under contract by plants in Sth Asia and their quality is not the same. If you do want to use these brands then find a niche importer who advertises Shell USA or German Castrol or Mobil USA. There are a few on ebay AU but they're not cheap, in fact they're priced with the next level up performance brands like Redline, Royal Purple and Amsoil.

I'd go with the Nulon recommendation simply on the basis that the people recommending it here actually know their stuff and have used what they recommend. Personally I've used Redline MT90 in my 5 speed on and off for years without a problem and I've found everything else that I tried was less good, i.e. either crunchy, baulky, notchy or noisy.

Beware Castrol Syntrans, my car was pretty much undriveable with it because of baulking. I had to drain it out after a week. :roll:
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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby project.r.racing » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:04 am

Aussie Stig wrote:
project.r.racing wrote:Again GL-5 is fine as long as it has a military spec attached.

MX5 gearboxes are not the only Mazda gearboxes with brass synchos built in the 90s and early 00s. All this has been tried and tested and proven before.


I am sure the aisen 6spd was also used in RX-7 and Lexus. I wonder what they are using.
This is what I use:-

http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products.p ... oducts=376

for my 323 with transaxle gearbox and hypoid clutch plate lsd. and have so for 100,000km. it's a GL-5 75-90.

oem spec normally is GL-4 75-90 same as mx5.

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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby project.r.racing » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:06 am

Aussie Stig wrote:I would have thought the gearbox oil would never wear out as it is a sealed system but apparently it should be changed about every five years/75K

Looks like something I should be scheduling as I am sure it has never been changed in 10years.
depends on usage. but 5 yrs 100,000km would be normal for a manual box. more fequent if towing or zoom-zoom-ing alot.

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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby manga_blue » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:50 am

Mazda's owners manual for the NA lists gear oil replacement at 60,000kms or 4 yrs, whichever comes first. Same for the diff.

Mazda's General Information guide lists 96,000kms or 4 years for the NB 6 speed. Same for the diff.
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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby JBT » Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:55 pm

NC Owners Manual shows change diff oil at 80,000km and 6 speed manual transmission oil at 100,000km. Only specifies GL-4 for the transmission.
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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby mx5002 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:49 am

Sorry to hijack
But while on the topic, how much oil does the gearbox hold?
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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby 93_Clubman » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:44 am

JG wrote:I've just had a look in the NB8B service manual and it says this:

Specified oil:
Grade: API service GL-4 or GL-5
Viscosity: SAE 75W-90 (All season) or SAE 80W-90 (Above 10 degrees C {50 degrees F})
Capacity (approximate quantity): 1.70 - 1.80L {1.79 - 1.90 US qt, 1.49 - 1.58 Imp qt}

viewtopic.php?f=29&t=50062&p=634163&hilit=NB8B+gearbox+capacity#p634163

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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby hks_kansei » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:56 pm

mx5002 wrote:Sorry to hijack
But while on the topic, how much oil does the gearbox hold?


Gearbox ~2l
Diff ~1l (for the 1.8 diff)


But, there's no need for any proper measuring, just fill it until the oil starts to dribble out of the fill hole. (that's why the fill hole is on the side, not the top)
Diff is the same.
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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby manga_blue » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:41 pm

If you buy one of the american market ones then you should have a teaspoon or two left over from 2 quarts.
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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby slimx » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:14 am

I know this topics pretty much over but just in case someone comes along and reads it again. Moral of the story

Get the REDLINE , 2 Quarts does you fine!!!
http://www.skreem.com.au/MTL-QUART

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Re: Which gearbox oil to use for a series 2 nb

Postby hks_kansei » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:09 am

slimx wrote:I know this topics pretty much over but just in case someone comes along and reads it again. Moral of the story

Get the REDLINE , 2 Quarts does you fine!!!
http://www.skreem.com.au/MTL-QUART

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