BIG thanks to Andy @ Adaptronic

mexiegirl · Postby **mexiegirl** » Wed May 29, 2013 7:07 pm

I contacted Adaptronic through their website because my car turned from a joy to drive to an evil bitch which stalled nearly every time on a hill (even 3,000 rpm and riding clutch) and was so jerky at low speeds I had to drive through car parks at 40km p/h also read the end of my thread a few months ago
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=57140&start=60

To tune my car after my cams & porting, David from MX5 MANIA sold and tune an adapronic which never ran properly from the word start, It pinged it's head off, David reason for not fixing was most cars ping even his BMW X5 pinged (hhmmmm did he tune his car), engine hunted 500 rpm he said it was the cams (refer thread of how mild), the jerking made it almost undrivable and nearly has now destroyed my diff and t/shaft with play his agrument was he doesn't even drive his stock NA that slow (thats because he has an auto X5). I was so embarassed I couldn't take it back as I felt it was me being a retard

Andy from Adaptronic absolutely turned my car back to a joy to drive again and his compassion to my situation and attention to detail was amazing. He also stopped the ping in 10 seconds of him in pass seat.

He knows his stuff, he owns an NA8 and other mazda's.

PaulF · Postby **PaulF** » Wed May 29, 2013 11:59 pm

Wow. Interested to see what Mania have to say about this...

Aussie Stig · Postby **Aussie Stig** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:36 am

Not a cheap little adventure.

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Thu May 30, 2013 7:56 am

I'm interested to see what okibi says about this (or hopefully dosent say).

I know their sponsors but I think this went through all the proper channels first, didn't name them before a resolution was attempted etc.

I think this should stay, just like it would with any other supplier the community has had a nasty experience with.

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Tony · Postby **Tony** » Thu May 30, 2013 9:04 am

mexiegirl wrote: I was so embarassed I couldn't take it back as I felt it was me being a retard

If I read this correctly, you weren't happy with the service you received but you were too embarrassed to take the car back and get it fixed.

While your experience is disappointing, IMO if you didn't take it back and try to resolve the situation you should possibly be somewhat circumspect about what you post on a public forum.

project.r.racing · Postby **project.r.racing** » Thu May 30, 2013 9:14 am

Being a forum sponsor doesn't give you the right to have negative opinions removed from the forum. Specially if there is truth to the whole situation. But who knows? I seen stuff editted and deleted on this forum before because it it rule breaking, only to have a moderator post the same thing and it be okay.

mexiegirl - glad to hear your problem is solved. Will be a much better drive now for you. And should have much better power than before when you were dissapointed with the minimal power gains from all earlier mods done.

project.r.racing · Postby **project.r.racing** » Thu May 30, 2013 9:15 am

Tony wrote:
mexiegirl wrote: I was so embarassed I couldn't take it back as I felt it was me being a retard

If I read this correctly, you weren't happy with the service you received but you were too embarrassed to take the car back and get it fixed.

While your experience is disappointing, IMO if you didn't take it back and try to resolve the situation you should possibly be somewhat circumspect about what you post on a public forum.

Looks like you didn't read this correctly. I read it as he/she had returned at least on one occassion to try and solve the problem, only to be told said problem is normal. Then I could be reading it incorrectly also. I'm sure mexiegirl will return and clear it up for us.

mexiegirl · Postby **mexiegirl** » Thu May 30, 2013 11:46 am

Totally Sailholic.
I was dilligent throughout the tune phase not to name names and it was when Andy from Adaptronic fixed problems within seconds that was destroying my car thats what really made me mad.
I have every right to state my case here and yes it should be left. There is a guy on here that wrote the same speal about his NA6 from MANIA but his NA6 stalled when stopping and going back to 2nd or something.

Thanks

I'll be keeping an eye on my post to make sure it stays, and maybe MANIA need to stick to oil changes and retail.

sailaholic wrote:I'm interested to see what okibi says about this (or hopefully dosent say).

I know their sponsors but I think this went through all the proper channels first, didn't name them before a resolution was attempted etc.

I think this should stay, just like it would with any other supplier the community has had a nasty experience with.

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mexiegirl · Postby **mexiegirl** » Thu May 30, 2013 11:52 am

1st of all I had no trust in them anymore so I went to the supplier and look at the outcome CAR FIXED
2nd I think you misread the fact that I was too embarassed to take it back when they mocked my issues with my car as to say it was me

Tony wrote:
mexiegirl wrote: I was so embarassed I couldn't take it back as I felt it was me being a retard

If I read this correctly, you weren't happy with the service you received but you were too embarrassed to take the car back and get it fixed.

While your experience is disappointing, IMO if you didn't take it back and try to resolve the situation you should possibly be somewhat circumspect about what you post on a public forum.

mexiegirl · Postby **mexiegirl** » Thu May 30, 2013 11:57 am

Thanks Project racing, yes hopefully it does stay. It does drive so much better now FFFEEEUUUUUW

The rear wheel horspower from happy

dyno was 113 KW not too bad. Now I can get competitive with the boys on the track and the road

Thanks for your u/standing

project.r.racing wrote:Being a forum sponsor doesn't give you the right to have negative opinions removed from the forum. Specially if there is truth to the whole situation. But who knows? I seen stuff editted and deleted on this forum before because it it rule breaking, only to have a moderator post the same thing and it be okay.

mexiegirl - glad to hear your problem is solved. Will be a much better drive now for you. And should have much better power than before when you were dissapointed with the minimal power gains from all earlier mods done.

mexiegirl · Postby **mexiegirl** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:03 pm

Refer my last quote to you, and yeah i'm all she but my car is too, the Mexigirl comes from me the driver being the girl with a Mexie.

And totally thats what happened below, it's hard for a girl to take a car back with issues and get all cranky, it's not in our demeanour (exclusions to some I guess)

project.r.racing wrote:
Tony wrote:
mexiegirl wrote: I was so embarassed I couldn't take it back as I felt it was me being a retard

If I read this correctly, you weren't happy with the service you received but you were too embarrassed to take the car back and get it fixed.

While your experience is disappointing, IMO if you didn't take it back and try to resolve the situation you should possibly be somewhat circumspect about what you post on a public forum.
Looks like you didn't read this correctly. I read it as he/she had returned at least on one occassion to try and solve the problem, only to be told said problem is normal. Then I could be reading it incorrectly also. I'm sure mexiegirl will return and clear it up for us.

mexiegirl · Postby **mexiegirl** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:12 pm

There is a point that every one has missed though, and thats my big positive and plug for Andy from Adaptronic who is a legend and does have a good product. Also the guy on here that has also had a bad adaptronic experience from MANIA too he was more searching for help than having a bitch sesion like me.

Take care and thanks for seeing my perspective

Lokiel · Postby **Lokiel** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:24 pm

Andy has always been very helpful to me also - just wish he lived in Brisbane

Postby **Andy_W** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:34 pm

Hi guys, thanks Angela for the plug.

Just for the benefit of the audience - the jerkiness WAS due to the cams. The torque rose very quickly from 1000 to 2000 RPM (not that I had a dyno, but I can see the rapid change in the fuel map) and this generated the oscillation / jerkiness in this RPM range.

The way I compensated for this was with ignition timing to basically counteract the effect of the cams in this RPM range. I haven't heard of any other tuners doing this before; maybe it's a common technique that they just don't talk about, but I just came up with the idea on the spot, tried it and it worked really well.

I'll be putting up a video in my tech video section on http://youtube.com/AdaptronicECU when I edit it properly - but I just wanted to say I don't think that most tuners I talk to would have come up with this technique. Maybe I'm wrong...

I can't comment on any interactions between Angela and MX5 Mania - obviously Mania are a good customer of ours; they buy a lot of ECUs, we sponsor some of their racing, and they sponsor my MX5 race car as well but as I said I can't comment on any private dealings.

Thanks for the plug Angela!

droo · Postby **droo** » Thu May 30, 2013 1:41 pm

In november 2008 with my previous car in, suzuki swift turbo, I drove from Bendigo to Sydney on the stock ecu. When i arrived I changed over to the adaptronic via a plugnplay loom and Andy had personally tuned mine too. Took a few competent hours and had done and tuned all that i asked for: Insanely smooth performance, improving my fuel economy incredibly for loads under 4000rpm. He'd also eeked out an extra 16kw from my 1.3 engine totalling 136Kw at the wheels. *fapfap*

When my Roadster is ready, i will be driving back there for his magical and comprehensive work again.

He has made the product, I think it just makes sense to to have it tuned by him. Top bloke too, and he had his red NA there when i dropped in at the time.

THANK YOU ANDY!