Help required - SP / SE Comparison

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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Charlie Brown » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:16 pm

Lokiel wrote:.....- this was sold in Australia as the 2002 Titanium (baby-poo brown door inserts, steering wheel trim and unique 16" rims). The 2002 Titanium had VVT like all NB8Cs ....

The 2002 Titanium was not a NB8C but still an 8B. The 8C started in November 2002. The first limited release in this model was the Classic, one of which I owned. :D It did have VVT, as all naturally aspirated NB8B/C's did.
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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby MrB » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:05 pm

Regarding the turbo's this was more to do with garrett changing their model designation and is essentially the same turbo. And we still have an orginal BOV on our road SP
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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Suspense » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:28 pm

Charlie Brown wrote:The 8C started in November 2002.

First 8Cs were built in September and complied at least in October, possibly earlier.

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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Caffeine » Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:51 pm

Charlie Brown wrote:
Lokiel wrote:.....- this was sold in Australia as the 2002 Titanium (baby-poo brown door inserts, steering wheel trim and unique 16" rims). The 2002 Titanium had VVT like all NB8Cs ....

The 2002 Titanium was not a NB8C but still an 8B. The 8C started in November 2002. The first limited release in this model was the Classic, one of which I owned. :D It did have VVT, as all naturally aspirated NB8B/C's did.


Except the 2002 model year automatic :D
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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby 93_Clubman » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:37 pm

Just remembered there were some axle differences that were uncovered a couple of years ago:
geofiz wrote:
selaga wrote:I meant to say Inner CV's not Outer.............

Spline count (Inner) = 28 male

Halfshaft = d24mm
Inner CV joint hashed area (in between the splines and the seal flange) = d30mm
Inner CV joint spline area = d30mm

Standard 1.8 carrier/housing = SE carrier/housing.
Standard 1.8 axle seals = SE axle seals.

Hope that help you guys out.

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Sel


Just measured the standard NB8B axles

Halfshaft = d24.4mm

Spline count (Inner) = 26 male

Inner CV joint hashed area (in between the splines and the seal flange) = d28mm
Inner CV joint spline area = d27mm

Seal surface = d35mm

Russell

Boyracer wrote:The outer Cv on the SE. Half shaft is bigger than the stock NB8B... The rear uprights are the same but with the SE they remove the seal that sits in the upright.

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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Hjt » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:53 pm

Fuel consumption for both models is too low.

0-100 for stock SE is bullshit, 0-100 for stock SP is also bullshit.

Stock SP on 5 pound on a gt2560r can do under 6sec.

Obviously power output figures would vary with 5/7 psi.

the 2560r is still available new, replaced versions were not all the "disco" potato as mentioned.

SE radio has MP3, SP doesn't

SE has the body kit.

SE is a better base, especially once you build the block and put the B/W turbo on.

SP has VVT head, SE doesn't.

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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Tezzax5 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:06 pm

Steampunk mine is the 28 ( Whatever that means :? )

Hayden if you go to my original post ( not the shortened version that Steam punk quoted ) you will note that i said some SP's not all SP's

Mrs B i only wanted to give Okibi the info that mazda changed the part number on their invoices and to also let possible new owners know of an approved replacement part.

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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby fastfreddygassit » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:12 pm

Hjt wrote:SE radio has MP3, SP doesn't

whoa!
I've got MP3? Didn't know that one.
Bonus :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
(obviously I didn't read the owners manual did I?)

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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Okibi » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:14 am

fastfreddygassit wrote:...I've got MP3? Didn't know that one.
Bonus :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
(obviously I didn't read the owners manual did I?)


I didn't know it either.

VVT and 25mm half shafts are already on the list.
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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Boyracer » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:43 am

SE.

Bilstein Shocks.
Mazdaspeed springs.
Mazdaspeed sway Bars.
Bosch Torsen diff.
Heavy duty CVs
Heavy duty tail Shaft.
Silver Brake calipers.
Heat shield inside trans tunnel under carpet.
Silver 6 Disc CD.
Silver heater controls.
Carbon look surround.
Red stitch gear knob.
Red stitch steering wheel.
Red stitch hand brake.
Boot spoiler.
Rear bumper lip.
Front bumper lip.
Turbo.
Non. SVT engine.
Bigger Radiator.
Racing hart wheels.
Option Leather seats.
Stock Red insert Seats.
Red insert door trims.
Mazdaspeed Pedal covers.
Smoked headlights.
Smoked Fog Lights.
SE Badge.
Mazdaspeed Engine mounts.
Stronger 6 speed.
Scuff Plates.



Probably just add to my list if you think of something else.
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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Boyracer » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:48 am

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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby SlugRacer » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:39 am

My Sunlight Silver SE has black leather seats with red leather inserts.
Previous owner told me it came like that new from the dealer. I've never seen another SE with the red leather inserts so may have been installed at dealer.

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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Okibi » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:39 pm

Boyracer wrote:SE.
Heat shield inside trans tunnel under carpet
Red insert door trims.
Mazdaspeed Pedal covers.
Smoked Fog Lights.

Added

http://www.mx5cartalk.com/SP_SE_Comparison/
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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby Tezzax5 » Tue May 14, 2013 9:33 am

A break down of original sales numbers across the country.... :MOCHA_LES:

With Mazda having a total of 130 dealers nationwide, not all dealers will get an MX-5 SP.

Most will be sold in Sydney and Melbourne but there will be some available in other States, with 45 heading to NSW; 33 to Victoria; 10 for Queensland; four for South Australia and eight for Western Australia.

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Re: Help required - SP / SE Comparison

Postby 93_Clubman » Tue May 14, 2013 10:27 am

Interesting info Tezza - allows some insight into the migration patterns of the SP.


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