NitroDann's Long Awaited Garage Thread

MrRevhead · Postby **MrRevhead** » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:06 pm

I've always been a fan of the stealth/sleeper look.

Great work Dann!

Sean · Postby **Sean** » Wed May 01, 2013 1:51 am

Your best work yet man.
Whack some nut and bolts through those spare holes and it's be flawless!

gslender · Postby **gslender** » Wed May 01, 2013 8:28 am

Sean wrote:Your best work yet man.
Whack some nut and bolts through those spare holes and it's be flawless!

For the uneducated in SE components (like me) can you outline what is different between this and the standard/stock header? Perhaps a photo with them side by side or at least a similar pic - which might help illustrate the benefits gained here.

Lokiel · Postby **Lokiel** » Wed May 01, 2013 10:01 am

^
The MSM/SE uses a small IHI turbo (vs the better SP's GT2560). Here's the SE manifold:

Top one is BEGI or FM Log Manifold, bottom one is the SE/MSM manifold

Postby **NitroDann** » Wed May 01, 2013 10:28 am

The stock manifold has a few flaws.

If you look above the very top pic isn't the Se manifold but the others are.
You can see how cylinder 1 2 and 3 a share a runner so by the time it hits the collector you have 3/4 of the engines exhaust fighting to get out one small runner full of casting marks and then go head on into the cylinder 4s exhaust gas and with nowhere to go turn 90* and head out the turbo flange.

It's a log manifold in the simplest form and if it had a T28 flange and the flange was positioned correctly many would go to a T25 or 28 as a cheap upgrade that spools better and makes far more torque through the mid all the way to 8000rpm.

However it doesn't have the T28 flange nor is that flange positioned right, so the manifold I made has individual runners that turn together to form a collector rather than the runners aiming directly at each other an pressure alone pushing them out the collector instead of into each other.

Oh and unlike the Se manifold this one has the right flange for and is positioned to fit a 440hp Borger Warner EFR :twisted:

Dann

corners · Postby **corners** » Wed May 01, 2013 10:42 am

For reference this is the factory SR20DET one:
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q276 ... G_0332.jpg

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4838/box3003hj7.jpg

Postby **Okibi** » Thu May 02, 2013 1:32 am

So when does the kit go into production? :mrgreen:

16bit · Postby **16bit** » Thu May 02, 2013 9:45 am

i tried to convince him of off the shelf stuff but no dice.

Postby **NitroDann** » Thu May 02, 2013 5:56 pm

tried to convince lokiel to not buy my manifolds !!!

Thems fightin' werdz :lol:

Here is some bits, the Forge actuator getting turned down in the lathe so it can be threaded further up the shaft to fit properly, I assume this actuator is designed for a slightly longer EFR turbo.. otherwise it would have been threaded further or had a shorter shaft.

And then a reroute pipe to go with the Begi spacer and modified front housing and a welsh plug to replace the front thermostat housing (pipe only pictured)

Upside down sorry

Dann

Apu · Postby **Apu** » Thu May 02, 2013 10:13 pm

Dann, can you build me a reroute pipe since you've got a template now please?

A.Chen89 · Postby **A.Chen89** » Thu May 02, 2013 10:43 pm

Apu wrote:Dann, can you build me a reroute pipe since you've got a template now please?

great minds think alike!

Postby **NitroDann** » Thu May 02, 2013 10:54 pm

Apu wrote:Dann, can you build me a reroute pipe since you've got a template now please?

Post un-instagramed picture of your bay and I will decide

Dann

Apu · Postby **Apu** » Thu May 02, 2013 11:07 pm

You know what it looks like! We can move some of the oil cooler hoses.

Postby **NitroDann** » Thu May 02, 2013 11:10 pm

Yeh its the hoses.

Dann

Lokiel · Postby **Lokiel** » Thu May 02, 2013 11:14 pm

16bit wrote:i tried to convince him of off the shelf stuff but no dice.

If I bought an off-the-shelf GT2650 kit, I knew that I'd always regret not getting the EFR6258 instead, it spools much faster and generates more power than the GT2560.

Now that it's almost complete, I'm glad I did, it's friggin' awesome!