Club Runs and Excessive Speeding
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chaps! I'd rather get back to the shitfight thanks, dont care about hearing you blokes turning 15.
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In all seriousness... I'm with Stan on this one.
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StanTheMan wrote:chaps! I'd rather get back to the shitfight thanks, dont care about hearing you blokes turning 15.
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StanTheMan wrote:chaps! I'd rather get back to the shitfight thanks, dont care about hearing you blokes turning 15.
LMFAO!
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Re: Club Runs and Excessive Speeding
I have just come upon this posting and I’m sure the problem will be responsibly handled by the Club.
Brendan, good on you for raising the issue and being a responsible P plate drive, there aren’t that many around.
Not only do you respect the law (speed limit) but you also have gone to the track to improve your driving skills. Something most P platers and fully licenced drivers haven't done.
I have a relative on "P's" who didn't adhear to the speed limit and suffered 6 month loss of licence. I hope it was a lesson learnt that could save his life and possibly others down the track.
First up let me say that I haven’t been on a run in a while but I lead many runs when Club Captain in the past and it wasn’t an easy job to keep everyone happy. The first thing I did was to read the run rules to the group before the start and ensure that any P platers drove at the back of the group due to their speed restrictions. The Club also has a “tail gunner” with a radio who is charged to let the leader know their position on the road. There were also numerous stops along the way to help those at the end of the group to keep in contact, something that’s hard to do with the amount of traffic on the road.
When driving at the front I made sure that the travelling speed was on the posted limit. This does have its problems further back in the field, especially if there is more than 20 cars in the group as the sausage line of cars expands and contracts. Some middle markers and those towards the tail, feel the need to catch up and this probably goes someway to explain what you saw on the run. On a number of occasions I had members complain that I was going too fast, yet the speed limit wasn’t being broken up front.
With the Club now establishing more Chapters, the numbers on the runs should drop the cars are spread between the various Chapter runs and hopefully incidents like yours won’t happen.
If I was you, I’d go on the Jenolan Caves run as I’m sure that you’ll find it different from your first experience and it is over some great roads. Remember, drive at your own pace. You’re on P plates for a reason - to learn how to survive on the road. If someone behind wants to pass, call them through, just like at the track.
Brendan, good on you for raising the issue and being a responsible P plate drive, there aren’t that many around.
Not only do you respect the law (speed limit) but you also have gone to the track to improve your driving skills. Something most P platers and fully licenced drivers haven't done.
I have a relative on "P's" who didn't adhear to the speed limit and suffered 6 month loss of licence. I hope it was a lesson learnt that could save his life and possibly others down the track.
First up let me say that I haven’t been on a run in a while but I lead many runs when Club Captain in the past and it wasn’t an easy job to keep everyone happy. The first thing I did was to read the run rules to the group before the start and ensure that any P platers drove at the back of the group due to their speed restrictions. The Club also has a “tail gunner” with a radio who is charged to let the leader know their position on the road. There were also numerous stops along the way to help those at the end of the group to keep in contact, something that’s hard to do with the amount of traffic on the road.
When driving at the front I made sure that the travelling speed was on the posted limit. This does have its problems further back in the field, especially if there is more than 20 cars in the group as the sausage line of cars expands and contracts. Some middle markers and those towards the tail, feel the need to catch up and this probably goes someway to explain what you saw on the run. On a number of occasions I had members complain that I was going too fast, yet the speed limit wasn’t being broken up front.
With the Club now establishing more Chapters, the numbers on the runs should drop the cars are spread between the various Chapter runs and hopefully incidents like yours won’t happen.
If I was you, I’d go on the Jenolan Caves run as I’m sure that you’ll find it different from your first experience and it is over some great roads. Remember, drive at your own pace. You’re on P plates for a reason - to learn how to survive on the road. If someone behind wants to pass, call them through, just like at the track.
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For crying out loud, the fact that he is on P plates is irrelevant, its a little condescending that it keeps getting mentioned.
Hes just a guy who thinks everyone of all ages and licence types needs to chill out on club runs.
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Hes just a guy who thinks everyone of all ages and licence types needs to chill out on club runs.
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NitroDann wrote:Hes just a guy who thinks everyone of all ages and licence types needs to chill out on club runs.
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I organize runs all the time. Sure as he'll not near the club and all this bullshit though.
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Go only with a group that everyone knows each other.
No more than 5 or 10.
Don't go to a popular road at peak hour.
Very sensible driving to the destination road.
Recky run for everyone.
Drive spiritedly on that stretch of road only.
Choose roads that have a shoulder and an extra lane rather than one that spills straight into oncoming traffic.
The club everything listed wrong.
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No more than 5 or 10.
Don't go to a popular road at peak hour.
Very sensible driving to the destination road.
Recky run for everyone.
Drive spiritedly on that stretch of road only.
Choose roads that have a shoulder and an extra lane rather than one that spills straight into oncoming traffic.
The club everything listed wrong.
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ellipsis wrote:To those that are NOT happy with the current crop of runs and the current folks that run them.
Why not back up your words and do the hard yards in organising and managing a run yourself ?
Dan ?
Brendan (or is it Brendan's mother using her sons account)?
When can I expect to see street events organised by you two ?
A simple elegant and obvious solution exists to this molehill turned into a mountain.
Three types of runs.
1. Sight seeing
2. Cruise
3. Spirited drive
All street events are labelled as one of these.
Or ban all sanctioned events that are not on track, period !
Young kids need to stfu, as you've minimal experience to base your comments upon.
Middle aged need to stfu, your generations the one's that are imposing bullshit regulations that fail to allow reasonable discretion and view every enjoyable event as another excuse to tax the rectum out of us.
As for the geriatrics, you lot set the example to the rest of us, what with cars that were cut'n'shut together to shorten their wheelbase by several inches over a weekend with your mates, modified in any conceivable manner (V8's into 4 cylinder chassis w/o appropriate safety modifications, breaking into private property for organised illegal races, blatant disregard for the laws etc ;)
No one generation are clean-skins here.
We've all fault to bear, as we've all responsibility to ensure we all enjoy this mutual interest.
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ellipsis wrote:
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Attacking the post, or the poster, some people need to re-evaluate which one it is that they're indeed addressing and how that is productive towards their goal.
Which were you doing when suggesting it was brendans mother posting on his behalf?
I get that it's hard to get everyone happy but there has been a few to many people saying there is issues for it to be completely dismissed as one persons hysteria.
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Everyone harden up a bit, and then relax.
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Re: Club Runs and Excessive Speeding
We used to do a lot of these when i lived in america. It might be an idea for something here depending on legalities.
I wouldnt imagine itd be a problem as long as average times were set low enough to not require speeding and stages were set for low traffic roads with any sections where you had to cross high traffic areas to get to "mx5 roads" set as un timed transit stages
Might be fun for people with a competition element while encouraging people to keep to a sane speed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regularity_rally
Obviously it would require a bit more work for recce and time setup with a few cars to go in advance to do timing checkpoints
I wouldnt imagine itd be a problem as long as average times were set low enough to not require speeding and stages were set for low traffic roads with any sections where you had to cross high traffic areas to get to "mx5 roads" set as un timed transit stages
Might be fun for people with a competition element while encouraging people to keep to a sane speed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regularity_rally
Obviously it would require a bit more work for recce and time setup with a few cars to go in advance to do timing checkpoints
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