Piston rings recommendation

Engines, Transmissions & Final Drive questions and answers

Moderators: timk, Stu, zombie, Andrew, The American, Lokiel, -alex, miata, StanTheMan, greenMachine, ManiacLachy, Daffy

User avatar
gslender
Speed Racer
Posts: 2330
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:49 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Brisbane, QLD

Piston rings recommendation

Postby gslender » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:17 pm

Got std pistons, but wondering what folks use for piston rings? Anything strongly recommended, or just use whatever Repco flog you?

G
MX5 91 NA6 LE completely stock and loving it!
MX5 92 NA8/ITBs Silver "aka Track Beeotch"

toppertee
Racing Driver
Posts: 699
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:16 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Brisbane

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby toppertee » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:28 pm

Does this mean we can buy a ring grinder?

User avatar
gslender
Speed Racer
Posts: 2330
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:49 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Brisbane, QLD

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby gslender » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:30 pm

toppertee wrote:Does this mean we can buy a ring grinder?


What for?
MX5 91 NA6 LE completely stock and loving it!
MX5 92 NA8/ITBs Silver "aka Track Beeotch"

toppertee
Racing Driver
Posts: 699
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:16 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Brisbane

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby toppertee » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:34 pm

gslender wrote:
toppertee wrote:Does this mean we can buy a ring grinder?


What for?


You have to grind the rings to fit. Plus I'm no good with a ring file.

User avatar
gslender
Speed Racer
Posts: 2330
Joined: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:49 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Brisbane, QLD

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby gslender » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:55 pm

Dremel baby.... It does everything!

G
MX5 91 NA6 LE completely stock and loving it!
MX5 92 NA8/ITBs Silver "aka Track Beeotch"

tbro
Racing Driver
Posts: 1125
Joined: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:46 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: North Brisbane

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby tbro » Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:58 pm

Just get a set of ACL rings, BUT you will need to measure what thickness the oil control ring is 3mm or 4 mm, and order as required.

You will need to measure ring gap in the bore but I doubt that they will need filing as the std bore used with a hone will probably be at max diameter.

If you don't know how to do this I'll try and find some training info and post.

Terry
"Racing shouldn't be for rich idiots, but for all idiots"

toppertee
Racing Driver
Posts: 699
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:16 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Brisbane

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby toppertee » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:09 pm

gslender wrote:Dremel baby.... It does everything!

G

Got one of those already!
I need some more tools....

User avatar
Zcootz
Fast Driver
Posts: 271
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:15 pm
Vehicle: NB8A
Location: Phillip Island

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby Zcootz » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:25 pm

I went with gapless rings on my last build and never looked back. They only cost a fraction more than the cast iron.

Out of interest I wonder who makes ACL rings these days, I used to do some engineering work for them when the rings were still being machined in Melbourne?
With two laps to go then the action will begin, unless this is the action, which it is.
Murray Walker

User avatar
Matt
Learner Driver
Posts: 15
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:53 pm
Vehicle: NA6
Location: Macedon Ranges

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby Matt » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:18 pm

Hastings made the gun rings back when I was in the trade. Not sure if they're still available, but I used them a lot and found them excellent.

User avatar
wozzah1975
Fast Driver
Posts: 336
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:39 pm

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby wozzah1975 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:32 pm

+1 for Hastings. If you are using the OE pistons and just honing the bores make a point of just using a cast type ring in it, not a moly or anything fancy.

Cheers
Woz
BP DOHC Mk1 Escort race car. Big Valve head, Cosworth Cams, Spool Rods, Nissan Pistons
www.facebook.com/pages/Warren-Heath-Per ... 4779879292

booki89
Fast Driver
Posts: 191
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:56 pm
Vehicle: NA8
Location: Melbourne

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby booki89 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:22 pm

Bit of a bump from the past, but its relevant to my situation today.

I am reconditoning my MX5 motor, and the gaps from the old rings were within spec from new - 0.25mm off the top of my head.

The new piston rings I got from hastings are at 0.50mm !

Would you use these new rings?
Where can i buy some rings that will fit my car, I have already exchanged these rings once due to poor ring gap.

manga_blue
Forum Guru
Posts: 4897
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:27 pm
Vehicle: NA8
Location: Moruya, NSW

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby manga_blue » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:45 pm

I've got NPRs off eBay for std pistons and lightly honed bores. 40,000kms on those now, including 5,000 track - still have 210ish compression, no smoke.
’95 NA8

booki89
Fast Driver
Posts: 191
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:56 pm
Vehicle: NA8
Location: Melbourne

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby booki89 » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:59 am

What type of ring end gap did you run magna?

manga_blue
Forum Guru
Posts: 4897
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:27 pm
Vehicle: NA8
Location: Moruya, NSW

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby manga_blue » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:11 pm

booki89 wrote:What type of ring end gap did you run magna?
It's manga, not magna. :twisted:

I just ran with Mazda factory specs.
Image
Source: Mazda NA8 Technical Data at http://mx5cartalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=46376

The NPRs were SWT20066. Google that for dimension data. They were easily in spec straight out of the box. No grinding or filing needed.

Engine had 170,000 kms on it then with little or no visible bore/piston wear. It was overhauled because of a crank nose failure.
’95 NA8

booki89
Fast Driver
Posts: 191
Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:56 pm
Vehicle: NA8
Location: Melbourne

Re: Piston rings recommendation

Postby booki89 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:54 am

Thanks manga, these are the same specs I am shooting for.

My Hastings rings are getting me 0.5mm gap on my top rings and even larger on my oil rings, so I am hesitant to run them.

Will be looking for another brand....as the rings that came out of the engine were within that factory spec!


Return to “MX5 Engines, Transmission & Final Drive”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 59 guests