MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby CAR53 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:15 pm

I'd be happy to be classed in with the compliance plated road registered hair drier bunch. Not with that monster of Brian's .

I also think that NC modified class should be split Lightly Modified and Heavily Modified.

Modified Engine internals being heavy modified.
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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby MINX » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:33 pm

CAR53 wrote:I also think that NC modified class should be split Lightly Modified and Heavily Modified.
Modified Engine internals being heavy modified.


We have to draw the line in the sand somewhere.
Remember how much prize money we are chasing for class wins!!!! :frown:
And how much the organisers get paid :frown:
There are so many variables over 30 cars everyone could have a category and win a prize.
There are always going to be stand out cars and drivers that are unreachable by others, unless they invest the equivilent $ and seat time to compete.
We all know even diferant tyres make a huge diferance, disregarding S spec tyres, even the normal 'road' tyres vary so much.

My 2c is we have enough diferant categories. And many participants dont even care. They just enjoy the individual day events.

For eg
I know if charlie91 was a Club member, and ran in every event for the year, he would win the Turbo/Super Category and I would have no chance. Beaten by HP and Mods. Fair enough.
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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby toppertee » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:38 pm

MINX wrote:
CAR53 wrote:I also think that NC modified class should be split Lightly Modified and Heavily Modified.
Modified Engine internals being heavy modified.


We have to draw the line in the sand somewhere.
Remember how much prize money we are chasing for class wins!!!! :frown:
And how much the organisers get paid :frown:
There are so many variables over 30 cars everyone could have a category and win a prize.
There are always going to be stand out cars and drivers that are unreachable by others, unless they invest the equivilent $ and seat time to compete.
We all know even diferant tyres make a huge diferance, disregarding S spec tyres, even the normal 'road' tyres vary so much.

My 2c is we have enough diferant categories. And many participants dont even care. They just enjoy the individual day events.

For eg
I know if charlie91 was a Club member, and ran in every event for the year, he would win the Turbo/Super Category and I would have no chance. Beaten by HP and Mods. Fair enough.

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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby toppertee » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:49 pm

plohl wrote:For the beginners group, is it split into modified and un modified? Or do all the noobs just get put on the track regardless of class?

How many cars are on the track at a time?

Also, what sort of times are the beginners running? And what sort of times for the level up?


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I.M.O. the mx5 track days would be one of the most relaxed days, I've been to. I've ran in the beginners group a couple of times. People move out of the way, seems to a big lack of egos,I've never seen any dummy spits!

I'm no gun behind the wheel and spent a fair amount in the in feild :twisted:
Had plenty of runs and a really good time, every time I've been.

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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby charlie_91 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:55 pm

Trying to get to this but I don't know if I will be able to :(
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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby Lokiel » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:11 pm

Most of us just want to improve our driving and PBs.
It's more fun to compete with your own "nemesis" that's doing similar times to you.
It was a lot of fun witnessing the personal "battle" between Roger and Ross last time at QR when they compared lap times after each session.
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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby zero00 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:11 pm

plohl

regardless of what group you are in and how fast you or the other person is, there are rules we must ALL obey!! OK, flat out down the main straights if you like but NO ONE can overtake thru a corner, alleviates any risks! When I started back two [2] years ago I was damn slow [still am!!] but boy what fun!! I was on a high for days after! It's not the speed but the fun and challenge of simply having a go and having so many great people around in the pits who will give you plenty of hints and tips all in good faith.

Go out for the first run, set your own pace and work out the best linees thru corners and be aware of what your car can and can't do! After that, collect your laps times and then plan the next run and see where you think you can better that already laid down! Funny, set say a target of 1:20 or 80 secs for your first run, if you beat that then great! Settle into the next and see how that goes and if you can leave there with a time around 1:17 for the day consider that a great start, but only do what you feel comfortable with

Remember, quite a few have been running 3 years plus, have got to know the tracks and what their cars can do, it all takes time but as I said - SO MANY WIL BE THERE THAT WILL BE HAPPY TO ASSIST!!

SEE YOU THERE!!
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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby project.r.racing » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:30 pm

JBT wrote:
project.r.racing wrote:there is plenty of selection. a MX5 club day normally attracts 40-50 cars, and there are about 150 places in the pits to choose.

There are 39 undercover carport pit parking areas at Willowbank though.
LOL @ me. Brain was thinking LP, not QR.

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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby toppertee » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:44 pm

zero00 wrote:plohl

regardless of what group you are in and how fast you or the other person is, there are rules we must ALL obey!! OK, flat out down the main straights if you like but NO ONE can overtake thru a corner, alleviates any risks! When I started back two [2] years ago I was damn slow [still am!!] but boy what fun!! I was on a high for days after! It's not the speed but the fun and challenge of simply having a go and having so many great people around in the pits who will give you plenty of hints and tips all in good faith.

Go out for the first run, set your own pace and work out the best linees thru corners and be aware of what your car can and can't do! After that, collect your laps times and then plan the next run and see where you think you can better that already laid down! Funny, set say a target of 1:20 or 80 secs for your first run, if you beat that then great! Settle into the next and see how that goes and if you can leave there with a time around 1:17 for the day consider that a great start, but only do what you feel comfortable with

Remember, quite a few have been running 3 years plus, have got to know the tracks and what their cars can do, it all takes time but as I said - SO MANY WIL BE THERE THAT WILL BE HAPPY TO ASSIST!!

SEE YOU THERE!!

Mr Zero,
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He will be pulling sub 70s within 3 laps :evil:

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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby charlie_91 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:07 pm

I wanna try get 57-58's on sprint and 61s on clubman. Not sure it these tires will get there :(
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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby zero00 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:15 pm

Charlie

Just try your hardest you're doing fine!! Can't wait to see you and CAR53 out together!!

Do hope you can make it Charlie, that car is a REAL crowd pleaser as is John's '53' :twisted: :NA6: :twisted: :NC:

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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby plohl » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:26 pm

MINX wrote:Times for 'Beginners' are really irrelevant, because there can be a big vareity of cars and drivers in that group.
Some may have never ven seen the track before, or dríven on any track.
It works fine normally, as after each successive run, the Compsec can adjust the group members so they are more closely matched.
Dont be alarmed if you are a gung ho racer, but first time there, and get put with some old grandma co driving hubbies DD.
If you prove your worth, you will get bumped up the groups accordingly.

Normally max of about 10-12 cars per group

PS Groups are based on laptimes not classes, modds or stds.

And if it rains......well thats another adjustment to make.


toppertee wrote:Plohl,
I.M.O. the mx5 track days would be one of the most relaxed days, I've been to. I've ran in the beginners group a couple of times. People move out of the way, seems to a big lack of egos,I've never seen any dummy spits!

I'm no gun behind the wheel and spent a fair amount in the in feild :twisted:
Had plenty of runs and a really good time, every time I've been.


Thanks for the reply guys! I am more worried about being too slow. Something I forgot to ask is how overtaking is handled. Is it only on the straights? or do you have to wait for person to flagged out of the way? From what you said Nigel it sounds like free game?

I am going to leave what I had typed above - just for reference; serves me right for half writing a response and walking away.

zero00 wrote:plohl

regardless of what group you are in and how fast you or the other person is, there are rules we must ALL obey!! OK, flat out down the main straights if you like but NO ONE can overtake thru a corner, alleviates any risks! When I started back two [2] years ago I was damn slow [still am!!] but boy what fun!! I was on a high for days after! It's not the speed but the fun and challenge of simply having a go and having so many great people around in the pits who will give you plenty of hints and tips all in good faith.

Go out for the first run, set your own pace and work out the best linees thru corners and be aware of what your car can and can't do! After that, collect your laps times and then plan the next run and see where you think you can better that already laid down! Funny, set say a target of 1:20 or 80 secs for your first run, if you beat that then great! Settle into the next and see how that goes and if you can leave there with a time around 1:17 for the day consider that a great start, but only do what you feel comfortable with

Remember, quite a few have been running 3 years plus, have got to know the tracks and what their cars can do, it all takes time but as I said - SO MANY WIL BE THERE THAT WILL BE HAPPY TO ASSIST!!

SEE YOU THERE!!


Thanks for clearing that up zero. If someone is clearly slower in the corners, will they get flagged to get out of the way along the straights? It noticed at a practice day that you could be faster in the corners, but not be able to overtake on the straight due to the power difference.

toppertee wrote:Mr Zero,
The lad can drive, scared the living s#it out of me when he drove mine :mrgreen:
He will be pulling sub 70s within 3 laps :evil:


Your too kind! haha! I seriously doubt 70's. The practice day I was braking waaayy to early and my lines were all over the place. I suppose time will tell.

Thanks for the replies everyone.

And Charlie, you have to come :P
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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby zero00 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:36 pm

plohl

Down the straights keep your line regardless of speed and watch your mirrors ALL the time, if you see another coming up behind, simple finger out the window [NOT pointing to the sky!!] is a polite way of saying 'I know you are there, pass me this side and I will keep out of the way!! In the 'slower' group there will be other drivers still gaining their confidence as well and if someone shows good speed they can be moved up into the next group to keep them balanced in relation to speed

Remember, it's good for a 'newbie' to walk pit lane and catch up with a few, ask some questions [NONE are stupid!] and I will guarantee you will get plenty of helpfull advice!! My car is the silver NB8A and will have #141 on the doors and also top left of the screen, look me up and I will introduce you around, no doubt you already know a few and met up with a few last Saturday as well.

For an idea of how it goes, my first run at Lakeside October 2010 I hoped to break 1:20, managed to get under that in the second run and finsihed the day with a 1:14.19 - and from there have slowly dropped down! My next target was to crack 1:10 and finally managed to get down to 1:09.55 and last meet dropped that to 1:09.16 - it's NOT easy to find another 1/2 a bl**dy second!! Now the target at Lakeside is 1:08's and QR 1:10's on the 'Clubman' circuit - we don't use the same full track the V8's use
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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby JBT » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:17 pm

If someone is clearly slower in the corners, will they get flagged to get out of the way along the straights? It noticed at a practice day that you could be faster in the corners, but not be able to overtake on the straight due to the power difference.

If someone is consistently climbing all over you in the corners, but you have 347.5 rwkw and leave them for dead down the straight, you are still the slow car. The faster car (with less power) must be "allowed" to pass on the straight....or someone (the guy with all the power who's hogging) will be spoken to. :wink:
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Re: MX5 CLUB OF QLD TRACK DAY 17 SEPT 2012

Postby zero00 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:31 pm

JBT

I've seen that at 'Track Attack' days at Lakeside, one day a guy fronted in a Ferrari and while 200+ down the straight would back off to 50-60 thru the corners and next thing a conga line of Excels ready to pass once on the straight, only to have him blast away and do the same corner after corner after corner!! I think a few had a 'polite' chat in his ear and next ting he was seen leaving thre the exit gate .. never to be seen again!!

I think 'plohl' will be one of our 'slower' newbies, getting used to the car and track and others out there, I'm sure he will come up and have a chat with a few of us and settle the nerves!! If he performs better than expected then UP A GROUP!!

Thanks JBT - btw ordered your 86 yet? [tongue firmly planted in the cheek as I delete you from the 'test drive' line up!! Build expected November, could change to later [YUK!] not sure if I will have it for Christmas but then a couple of GTS's with aeros comning around the same time so could step up a notch much that I'm NOT into leather! [seats that is!!]
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