Confused about SE compared with SP

Postby **NitroDann** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:53 pm

LSD is the second thing on my list.

Frame rails arent needed.

Roll bar is 600 and self install.

Any of these cars need engineering as soon as you add an intake or exhaust, so thats fair game, and even for all 3.

Dann

Hjt · Postby **Hjt** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:55 pm

Clutch+ install $650

What clutch is $650 that will be brilliant for my SP. Please share

ps. Dann mentioned Torsen, which is a type of Diff!

Postby **NitroDann** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:38 pm

Mania and many other shops will install for 400 odd, and 250 gets you HD exedy and extreme clutches.

Dann

Apu · Postby **Apu** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:40 pm

Mania will install for $400

bootz · Postby **bootz** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:10 pm

THE TEN STAGES OF ENLIGHTENMENT ACCORDING TO BOOTZ:

1. Buy MX-5 (any non turbo model)
2. Hey this is great but it needs a bit of power
3. Lets turn it into a turbo/supercharged monster
4. Work out it costs about $10K and another $10K of your time to organise it all
5. Flower it, I have to pay for engineering to make it legal ???
6. Flower it all, I wish I had bought a turbo
7. Damn only 100 SP in existence!
8. Find out all the 'compromises in the SE and all the costs to mod.
8. Appreciate the hassle free nature of the standard car
9. See point 2 again.
10. Search around for a cherry SP or nicely modded SE - motoring NIRVANA.

Postby **NitroDann** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:30 pm

Give me 20 K Ill build you a capable 240rwhp NA or NB.

Dann

bootz · Postby **bootz** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:40 pm

NitroDann wrote:Give me 20 K Ill build you a capable 240rwhp NA or NB.

Dann

True, but that does not include the price of the car (or does it, I am not talking track dog, NB8B model)

Have seen cherry SPs on this forum for under 20K. Granted you have to be patient.

Postby **NitroDann** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:49 pm

bootz wrote:
NitroDann wrote:Give me 20 K Ill build you a capable 240rwhp NA or NB.

Dann

True, but that does not include the price of the car

yes it does.

Dann

bootz · Postby **bootz** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:54 pm

NitroDann wrote:
bootz wrote:
NitroDann wrote:Give me 20 K Ill build you a capable 240rwhp NA or NB.

Dann

True, but that does not include the price of the car

yes it does.

Dann

Sorry for the ninja editing - NB8B model, 2001+ modded for $20K all up to 240 hp, sounds interesting if possible.

Postby **NitroDann** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:58 pm

NB8A with nb8b brakes and torsen LSD, 6 speed in that budget may be doable.

Dann

bootz · Postby **bootz** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:51 pm

NitroDann wrote:NB8A with nb8b brakes and torsen LSD, 6 speed in that budget may be doable.

Dann

Or I could just buy this one for 18k... viewtopic.php?f=73&t=52331&p=657884&hilit=turbo#p657884

93_Clubman · Postby **93_Clubman** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:59 am

Lokiel wrote:Getting engineering certification for the turbo+ECU will be a hassle though.

NitroDann wrote:Any of these cars need engineering as soon as you add an intake or exhaust, so thats fair game, and even for all 3.

Even in that engineering is required, but not even in terms of degree of difficulty or, in some states (Vic), feasibility.

hks_kansei · Postby **hks_kansei** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 11:38 am

True, In Vic exhaust is free (apart from noise regs and regulations regarding the cat), headers are allowed as long as they maintain all OEM fittings etc for pollution requirements.

I'm pretty sure intakes are also fine here, but I can't seem to find the legislation that supports that.

dave2221 · Postby **dave2221** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:01 pm

NitroDann wrote:NB8A $8000
Torsen+ Install $1500
SP equivalent Turbo setup+ install $4500
Coilovers+ install $1500
Swaybars+ install $350
Clutch+ install $650
ECU+tune $1700

Thats everything a modified SE or SP will ever amount to in this budget, using brand new components and done right.

Dann

This is not exactly accurate.....

You still wont have the SE brakes.... Or the leather seats (assuming you want them) the bose speakers (which i think the SE got in aust) the fog lights/new front bar, The bodykit (not everyone wants, but some do), Smoked headlights (small detail but i believe looks good) 6 speed box

And to top it all off your budget still only comes to an illegal car..... plus you have had your MX5 off the road for at least 2 months to get all this sh*t done.

Not to mention EVERY NB8A listed on carsales for the 8k figure has 150,000km+ on it

Add the fact the stock wheels on an NB8A are not as good looking as the stock SE wheels

So lets do some maths....

Everything you listed above ($18,200)
Doesnt include Engineering (lets say $1,500)
I wont even include a set of rims.....
Total is $19,700

You now have a Turbo MX5, which still has less comforts than the SE (fogs, 6 stacker, 17" rims bodykit or headlamps, 6 speed leather)
Great....
Also you started off with a NB8A which is 1999-2001 so its at least 3-5 years older than your SE.....

Which is funny because that is about the same money, or $1,000 more expensive than a 04 SE with 80-90,000 k's

Which is drive away, and probably cheaper insurance (as its standard)

So how is ANY of what you said a better deal than that.....

I mean, top it off with a Exhaust and AEM intake on your SE and you ahve 140ish RWKW all day long.