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Re: if someone gave you $5k to spend on you cars suspension.

Postby NitroDann » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:22 am

A second sleeve over the shock body.

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Postby Matty » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:13 am

sailaholic wrote:But shims would be painful if you were corner weighting, thread is a lot easier to adjust (for any reason).

How is cooling worse, or rather which part is making cooling worse?

I still don't get why you would need this technique for corner weighting. The optimum length of the shock body is where it bottoms out just before something else bad happens, like the control arms hitting the chassis. You don't need an adjustable length to do this, you need the correct length. So all you need to do is adjust the spring perch position.

Cooling (of the oil in the damper) will be worse because you have an extra layer with a poor thermal conduction path to dissipate heat through.

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Re: if someone gave you $5k to spend on you cars suspension.

Postby sailaholic » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:47 am

So your saying just buy new springs when you want to change ride height independent of spring load?

Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought monotube shocks only had one piece. Ie the thread was part of the main casing rather than an extra sleeve. In this case cooling would be better.

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Re: if someone gave you $5k to spend on you cars suspension.

Postby Jace » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:21 am

air bag suspension, engine dríven air pump, turbocharger to make up for the power loss with the pump.

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Re: if someone gave you $5k to spend on you cars suspension.

Postby Matty » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:34 pm

sailaholic wrote:So your saying just buy new springs when you want to change ride height independent of spring load?
No that's not what I'm saying.

When you've got weight on the car, regardless of how long your shock is, or the preload on it is when the shock assembly is out of the car, the load through the spring is identical. So all you achieve is a change in the length of the shock, which is unnecessary if your shocks are the correct length to prevent bottoming out in the first place.

There's no need to buy new springs, just adjust the spring perch.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought monotube shocks only had one piece. Ie the thread was part of the main casing rather than an extra sleeve. In this case cooling would be better.

the addition of an outer sleeve to wind the shock up and down is independent of whether the shock is monotube or double tube.

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Re: if someone gave you $5k to spend on you cars suspension.

Postby Wivvix » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:09 pm

hb wrote:what would you buy?
assuming your car is a stock standard na6

Ohlins DFV
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Postby Boyracer » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:36 pm

$5k front Proflex or Penske, $10k front and rear Proflex or Penske.
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Re: if someone gave you $5k to spend on you cars suspension.

Postby davekmoore » Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:03 am

Full cage (to properly connect the front of the car to the back), coilovers, Yokohamas.
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