Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Thanks for the tip on brake bias ;)
Don't really have set budget but don't want to waste cash obviously so just after the good gain mods..
Wakefield times I'd like the car to be capable of 6's or there abouts.
Anything else from my list I should consider ?
Don't really have set budget but don't want to waste cash obviously so just after the good gain mods..
Wakefield times I'd like the car to be capable of 6's or there abouts.
Anything else from my list I should consider ?
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Truthfully. Take the advice listed. Get a extinguisher, entry level roll bar such as a brown Davis, service the car and go driving. Add bits as you go.
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
You want a T28 on a reliable log manifold a 2.5 inch free flowing dump and exhaust and a decent sized intercooler.
RX7 550cc injectors and an ecu.
You will need a clutch also.
You also need a 6 speed and a torsen or clutch diff.
A decent set of coilovers obviously and matching sways, sways come with trial and personal preference.
You need 15x8 6UL wheels and some Soft compound R specs.
Tear all the interior out including softtop, get a hardtop.
You need a 6-8'' splitter that goes back to the subframe at least.
You want a GTC 200 or 300 wing.
Of course you will need a reroute and a 42mm+ alloy radiator with GOOD ducting.
You need to get some good brake pads and disks something like carbotech XP10s or Hawk blues. Someone recommend him some disks.
RBF600 brake fluid.
Race seat and safety gear.
Pretty sure I didnt miss anything.
Dann
RX7 550cc injectors and an ecu.
You will need a clutch also.
You also need a 6 speed and a torsen or clutch diff.
A decent set of coilovers obviously and matching sways, sways come with trial and personal preference.
You need 15x8 6UL wheels and some Soft compound R specs.
Tear all the interior out including softtop, get a hardtop.
You need a 6-8'' splitter that goes back to the subframe at least.
You want a GTC 200 or 300 wing.
Of course you will need a reroute and a 42mm+ alloy radiator with GOOD ducting.
You need to get some good brake pads and disks something like carbotech XP10s or Hawk blues. Someone recommend him some disks.
RBF600 brake fluid.
Race seat and safety gear.
Pretty sure I didnt miss anything.
Dann
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speed wrote:If I was to do it again, I wouldn't even consider the supercharger.
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Great help, thanks Dann.
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Dann was taking the piss.
Want to have fun? Forget all of this...
Do this...
Then upgrade the car based on your experience/any short comings you find.
If you want to spend a bunch of money to get yourself an awesome track car and win internet points, do this...
Want to have fun? Forget all of this...
ABR wrote:15x8 6UL rims
Kumho V70a
Coilover Shocks
Wheels alignment
Race seat/harness
Half rollcage (bolt-in)
Brake pads and braided lines
Strut and swaybars front/rear
Alloy radiator
Do this...
manga_blue wrote:1. Seat time (the only single mod worth more than 10 sec/lap)
2. Roll bar, 3" Harness, race seat
3. Tyres, fluids, pads and wheel alignment
Then upgrade the car based on your experience/any short comings you find.
If you want to spend a bunch of money to get yourself an awesome track car and win internet points, do this...
ABR wrote:15x8 6UL rims
Kumho V70a
Coilover Shocks
Wheels alignment
Race seat/harness
Half rollcage (bolt-in)
Brake pads and braided lines
Strut and swaybars front/rear
Alloy radiator
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Thanks for your opinion.
I'm not interested in Internet wank contests at all lol just after some good advice on the things to do to get my mx5 setup well.
I am enjoying the cost effective prices for mx5 gear compared to the cost involved inn building my Lotus.
The philosophy for this car is bang for buck fun but I ain't going to be happy with 100rwhp. 200-250rwhp will be great to wake the car up and give me the fun im looking for.
Without sounding full of myself, it's not my first time on the track so I can appreciate what your saying IF I'd never been on track before..
I've just purchased a GT2560R turbo so now on the hunt for a decent manifold and some accessories.
I'm not interested in Internet wank contests at all lol just after some good advice on the things to do to get my mx5 setup well.
I am enjoying the cost effective prices for mx5 gear compared to the cost involved inn building my Lotus.
The philosophy for this car is bang for buck fun but I ain't going to be happy with 100rwhp. 200-250rwhp will be great to wake the car up and give me the fun im looking for.
Without sounding full of myself, it's not my first time on the track so I can appreciate what your saying IF I'd never been on track before..
I've just purchased a GT2560R turbo so now on the hunt for a decent manifold and some accessories.
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
They are pretty quick out of the box. Some semi slicks and decent brake pads on the standard brakes, plus removing unneeded stuff will be a quick little car.
Have a look at car # 69 / 169 here, it is completely stock engine wise:
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/resul ... 012.QR1.P1
It's an absolute blast to drive too, because you are pretty much always flat on the go pedal!
Have a look at car # 69 / 169 here, it is completely stock engine wise:
http://www.natsoft.com.au/cgi-bin/resul ... 012.QR1.P1
It's an absolute blast to drive too, because you are pretty much always flat on the go pedal!
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Cool, thanks for your input mate.
I've got a 2f car ive purchased in the shed at the moment. I think it does 59's around Lakeside.. It won the 2011 CUE 1hr series apparently. But now I'm really focused on building a street/track car as I dont want the hassle of towing car to track and not get the use out of it as much if it was street registered.
Its a import and can't be regestered so now my NB8 project will start and I can enjoy the car regularly and get more out of my investment.
I've got a 2f car ive purchased in the shed at the moment. I think it does 59's around Lakeside.. It won the 2011 CUE 1hr series apparently. But now I'm really focused on building a street/track car as I dont want the hassle of towing car to track and not get the use out of it as much if it was street registered.
Its a import and can't be regestered so now my NB8 project will start and I can enjoy the car regularly and get more out of my investment.
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
OK then, the traditional method with MX5s is to get them to really handle first, learn to drive them that way and then work on the power.
If you're ultimately going turbo then do the suspension to suit that. That means:
- Quality coilovers with springs around 8Kgmm/5Kgmm, 9/6, 10/7, even 14/10 except it's almost impossible on the street. Lots of discussions about brands on this site. Speak to Fulcrum.
- Stock sway bars will do if the springs are stiff enough. Even no sway bars for 14/10 springs. Refer FatCAt Mortorsports spreadsheets for setup calcs.
- Enough work on suspension bushings, etc to get you up round -2.5/-2.0 camber F/R with ride heights around 310-315/315-320 F/R measured hub to wheel arch. Some cars can get there on stock bushings, some need a superpro offset set or mods to control arms. Again speak to Fulcrum.
- LSD diff inset. Plenty of discussion here around Mazda torsens and aftermarket plate systems.
- Strut braces are unnecessary. MX5s don't have strut suspension. All the geometry is built into the control arms and sub-frames, not the strut towers.
- Big brake kit and appropriate pads and rotors if your regs allow it. Check Good-Win racing, 949racing. Willwood MX5 brake bias adjuster kit.
- 15x8 +30ish. Make sure they fit over the BBK.
That should get you started with something that can match an Elise on the shorter tracks. They'll still run away from you on long straights after hairpins with their power to weight advantage though but you can get back under them under brakes.
If you're ultimately going turbo then do the suspension to suit that. That means:
- Quality coilovers with springs around 8Kgmm/5Kgmm, 9/6, 10/7, even 14/10 except it's almost impossible on the street. Lots of discussions about brands on this site. Speak to Fulcrum.
- Stock sway bars will do if the springs are stiff enough. Even no sway bars for 14/10 springs. Refer FatCAt Mortorsports spreadsheets for setup calcs.
- Enough work on suspension bushings, etc to get you up round -2.5/-2.0 camber F/R with ride heights around 310-315/315-320 F/R measured hub to wheel arch. Some cars can get there on stock bushings, some need a superpro offset set or mods to control arms. Again speak to Fulcrum.
- LSD diff inset. Plenty of discussion here around Mazda torsens and aftermarket plate systems.
- Strut braces are unnecessary. MX5s don't have strut suspension. All the geometry is built into the control arms and sub-frames, not the strut towers.
- Big brake kit and appropriate pads and rotors if your regs allow it. Check Good-Win racing, 949racing. Willwood MX5 brake bias adjuster kit.
- 15x8 +30ish. Make sure they fit over the BBK.
That should get you started with something that can match an Elise on the shorter tracks. They'll still run away from you on long straights after hairpins with their power to weight advantage though but you can get back under them under brakes.
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Thanks mate, that is some real good info and exactly what i was looking for ...
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Hopefully you're getting the gist of what people are saying above. Learn to drive a standard car fast (like, you can match the local club's standard class track records), then worry about spending money on mods. A standard car is just as much fun, even if slower.
The basics of safety and regulatory requirements is all you should spend money on upgrading. The rest should be spent on track time, tyres, brake pads and fuel.
The basics of safety and regulatory requirements is all you should spend money on upgrading. The rest should be spent on track time, tyres, brake pads and fuel.
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Yeah i got all the info i need now i think, thanks all
Ill be hooking into this project quick smart and cant wait to hit the track with more MX5's.
Look forward to meeting the QLD guys at QR/Lakeside/Morgan Park soon
Cheers
Ill be hooking into this project quick smart and cant wait to hit the track with more MX5's.
Look forward to meeting the QLD guys at QR/Lakeside/Morgan Park soon
Cheers
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
buy Nick Cancian's NA8 turbo. does 1.06's in race trim, and is road registered.
nothing else to spend!
then seat time!
nothing else to spend!
then seat time!
Looking for an SVT motor for this:
viewtopic.php?f=73&t=62834
viewtopic.php?f=73&t=62834
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Re: Best bang for buck track use mod list ...
Hi,
I don't know who that is, do you have a link to his advert ?
Cheers
I don't know who that is, do you have a link to his advert ?
Cheers
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