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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby Mr Morlock » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:23 pm

standard car dríven normally a standard Exedy clutch will last very well- racing and abusing a clutch might be a different story. I would not replace the flywheel - just get it machined as is normal.Clutch repairers will be able to supply and fit and do the whole job for you with a warranty on their work. If you buy from e bay then good luck with warranties- if you buy it from overseas ( freight will double the cost) you will have to return it to US to get a warranty- the locals are not interested. Easy approach get a quote from local fitters all up and take it from there. Drive in drive out pay your money and get a warranty on workmanship and components.

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby mito » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:35 pm

ok looks like no flywheel then, just get the original machined, so that depends if its still in decent condition though ? if it aint which im expecting to be, since it is the factory one which makes it about 22years old !!

i really dont want to buy it from ebay because of all the problems that can occur and the 'ebay' product seems to me that its going to be faulty haha
the winner is the exedy sports tuff clutch atm, now must find the cheapest place for it ! any leads ?

waiting for xtreme to get back to me about there clutche kits and fly-wheel, cant say no to a good bargain haha
how would the heavy duty or button clutch kit from xtreme be compared to the exedy sports tuff ?

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby marty085 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:50 pm

Mr Morlock wrote:If you buy from e bay then good luck with warranties

Fair point, but to me at least, the potential cost saving was worth the risk.. I was getting the engine reconditioned at the time so the prospect of losing $60 on shipping back to US (worst case scenario) was the least of my worries :D plus the aussie dollar was way better when I bought it!

mito wrote:the 'ebay' product seems to me that its going to be faulty haha

miatamecca's 4,758 previous customers who all left positive feedback would disagree.

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby manga_blue » Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:51 pm

Just a thought. Speak to Dean at Motorsport Essentials in Mulgrave about your needs. He's been doing some good work for club members in Vic. He may be able to source the clutches and machining and do the install work.
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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby spaztikcamel » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:30 pm

do what I did.

fm level 1 clutch and 1.8 flywheel

I couldnt believe it when I pressed the pedal felt exactly the same as stock but now it holds the turbo's torque.

slightly grippier so it is a tiny bit harder to slip.

cost me 420 landed at my doorstep and another 160 for flywheel machineing and s/h 1.8 flywheel.

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby Old Dude » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:43 pm

mito wrote:yeah I was leaning more towards the exedy sports tuff, where did you find it for $390 by the way?

i thought if i do get a new flywheel it would most likely be xtreme thats why i wanted to go xtreme clutch too.

yeah mania told me the same to go for the daikin rather than the xtreme.

so from what i gathered exedy > xtreme clutch ?

is there any other flywheels worth buying that arent xtreme ?


I got the $390 price on the MX Mania website, sorry I thought you were in Sydney
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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby sailaholic » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:52 pm

Factory 1.8 flywheels are significantly heavier than 1.6.

fly is quite possibly OK if its still got STD clutch. Still running a factory flywheel on my Gemini at 32 years old and its almost on its 3rd engine!

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby spaztikcamel » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:04 pm

so he can buy a lightweight flywheel with the happy meal (not sure how much it costs landed).

fm happy meal costs almost as much as just a lightweight flywheel from mania.

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby mito » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:24 pm

I found a place in Melbourne that sells the exedy sports tuff clutch kit for $285!
That looks like a done deal there haha

With the flywheel most people have just grinded them down so I guess ill do the same.
I thought 'upgrading' the flywheel would yield better results ?

I wasn't referring to one seller on ebay more just the 'ebay' product in general. But of course you can still buy awesome products I just don't want to risk it for this haha

Are there any flywheels worth considering for my purposes?

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby NitroDann » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:08 pm

Mito, I can see you are just looking to spend money. Burning a hole in your pocket hey? :mrgreen:

You cant really 'upgrade' a disk of steel. You can change its weight. And it will accelerate slightly faster with a far lighter flywheel but your clutch will no longer allow you to be lazy in traffic.
I have a machined stock 1.6 fly, with a 250% heavier than stock non cushioned brass button on mine.
Daily.
I also have no windows.

How hardcore do you want to go.

If I were you id get an extreme or exedy stock replacement, and machine the flywheel if the guy doing the job thinks it needs it. However if the clutch doesnt shudder at all now, It doesnt need it. You can surface it with a sander in 30 seconds. Literally.
Ive had good experience with the extreme and exedy clutches. Most people will tell you to get exedy, just like most people will tell you to get a commodore, its just a bit more popular.

Theres no need at all to get a heavy duty, as your engines torque output wont ever exceed stock by more than 10%.

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby pcmx5 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:31 pm

[quote="manga_blue"]I mentioned elsewhere on the forum this week that I've had an Exedy Sports Tuff clutch in for a few years in a lightly modified NA8. It's an excellent clutch to use in traffic, twisties and motorsport: 40,000kms and 40 track days and still good. Light, precise and tough. For your use that would be the very top of the range that I'd be looking for. One or two steps down towards Exedy's HD or standard clutches might also suit you just as well if you don't do much motorsport.

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby Mr Morlock » Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:47 pm

mito- a business like ABS handle Exedy ( franchises) and also do the job - its an example- there are plenty of clutch installers and you go where it suits you and where you are happy with the price, timing convenience etc. Exedy is the OEM brand and was Daikin. If you are in Melb with at least 100Km across - if it were me I deal with someone in my area and there a number of them. Any clutch installer will source product with the Exedy brand. PS Marty accepted the point but if you supply a clutch to a fitter and something goes wrong you have a logistical nightmare- you want a workable warranty. If it goes wrong and there was a dud clutch the installer does not want a car sitting around in a workshop while you burn up time trying to deal with your components supplier- peace of mind- have the installer backing the job from workmanship to parts. Also the feedback on e bay is useless- they can write their own stuff. Someone mentioned $160 for flywheel skim- that's crazy.

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby Smokinscotty » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:12 pm

I am an exedy reseller, will get a price for you if you like. Great kits, but will request proof of machining the flywheel in the event of a warranty claim.
Had a extreme kit in the skyline and it was great! And they were cheaper going direct out of Adelaide.
Let me know if I can help.
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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby dimarg » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:25 pm

hey dude just giving my personal experience.

i had this clutch in my na6
http://www.motorsportessentials.com.au/ ... lutch-kit/
it actually had an exedy organic plate!

alongside i had this flywheel
http://www.motorsportessentials.com.au/ ... -flywheel/

clutch had great feel and i found easier better driveability than oem thanks to the feel.

flywheel built up rpm quickly, slightly tricky take-off with clutch but you get used to it real quick.
overall i found it to be a good combo but i definately cant say i have anywhere near the technical nouse of these other guys.

just my experiences anyway..

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Re: clutch decisions ~

Postby mito » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:53 pm

Haha no don't want to spend a lot of money, just want it done properly since labour is costing me more than the clutch itself. And I'm wanting to go to do some twisties really badly but scared atm becuase my clutch is slipping heaps now and makes a lot of sound on low revs, previous owner installed a xtreme clutch not sure what type but it was xtreme branded. Been in the car for roughly 4 years.

Previous owner was a goose though, car had screws missing everywhere, parts were replaced, ahhh anyways..

So dimarg you preferred the fidanza flywheel than the stock flywheel ?


Just found this, looks good "http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/61-1031COMBO.html"
Thoughts or personal experience?


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