FFS experience?

slug · Postby **slug** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:05 pm

Hi All,

Thinking of adding some forced induction to my 1999 MX 5 SE if I pass my big exam in Aug.

Like the idea of the Fast forward supercharger- seems like a relatively simple unit, well designed, stealth look and not too heavy/additional intercooler etc.

Not chasing huge performance numbers, just to make the car a bit more fun and different.

Anyone had any experience with FFS? any recommendations for an installer in Perth?

Opinions on alternatives- not wanting to open a turbo/supercharge debate though.

Of course, I'm going to have to learn to drive a bit more too to get the most out of it.

Thanks in advance.

T

93_Clubman · Postby **93_Clubman** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:56 pm

Some discussion & leads here: viewtopic.php?f=81&t=42721

tinsfci · Postby **tinsfci** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:18 pm

I have just about finished my install on a ‘94, I bought a second hand kit a while ago and have upgraded to the dual extra injectors for the e-cool. Need to get a new exhaust mid pipe made and change the clutch before I can tune it, but it will be good to go by the March Sprint.

Installation is fairly straight forward, a couple of difficult bits are the nuts under the new manifold which are difficult to get to, I removed the starter motor and ground down a short ring spanner to fit which eliminated a fair bit of swearing and knuckle breaking. I shortened the fuel delivery and return lines to allow a bit more clearance to the supercharger bypass solenoid (you could probably just bend them), and the length of the high flow fuel rail makes fitting the pressure regulator interesting but not impossible. My kit is a few years old now, so some of these parts may have changed. Tom has been threatening to make a rotomoulded intake pipe for a while now that will make the installation very neat. I will buy one if they ever become available because the flex pipe looks a bit naff (but doesn’t affect performance).

I also made an adapter to allow the clutch reservoir to be lifted by ~80mm which allows more clearance for the intake pipe, I sent Tom from FFS the drawing for this part and he said he may include it in the RHD kits. Fuel and vacuum plumbing is straight forward although some of the instructions could be clearer, and I think I have enough clearance everywhere to meet licencing standards, so that should not be a big issue.

For management I am running a Megasquirt and wideband O2 sensor, and I have the separate controller for the e-cool injectors which only operate on boost. With a stock computer you will need the extra fuel controller and the timing controller so a total of 3 extra modules, all of which are included in the full kit.

So…. Installation is probably harder than a hot side but is totally do-able with a fairly basic set of tools, several cartons of beer and a free weekend. I’m looking forward to being able to report on how well it goes on the road in a few weeks, and I will post up some photos and comments when it is all done.

slug · Postby **slug** » Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:28 pm

Thanks!

LIke I said- just doing some research at the moment. If it goes ahead will be late in the year.

T

PJK · Postby **PJK** » Sun May 01, 2011 2:53 pm

Just put a FFS 62 Coldside on a 91 NA6.
Bolt on kit, good service but still having some idle issues that need to be tuned out.
Easy for a home install, but I did take a while to think it through.

Car goes very well....

93_Clubman · Postby **93_Clubman** » Tue May 03, 2011 11:07 am

PJK wrote:Just put a FFS 62 Coldside on a 91 NA6.
Bolt on kit, good service but still having some idle issues that need to be tuned out.
Easy for a home install, but I did take a while to think it through.

Car goes very well....

Bet it does! Congrats! Pics?

slug · Postby **slug** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:09 am

If the FFS is put into the car, what other changes are suggested to get the most out of it. i.e. Brakes/clutch/frame rails?

Keeping in mind more of a touring car rather than track car.

Cheers,

T

johnnyreble · Postby **johnnyreble** » Fri May 04, 2012 7:16 pm

Hi

I recently fitted a FFS supercharger
10psi and 170rwhp
adjustable coilover suspension
whiteline swaybar
Toyo R888 tyres
has taken 6 seconds off my usual track time, SO happy with the guys at FFS so helpfull and I only have to change the crank pulley to take it up to 16psi and 260rwhp ... But not going to do that as it is awesome as it is. The FFS kit came with everything, fuel and timing cards are pre tuned nothing to buy whatsoever it's all in the kit (unlike some kits ) it's very smooth from idle up to rev limiter 7500 rpm I'm no mechanic but fitted it myself in a weekend, just bolt it on plug it in and go the difference is amazing .. cost $4000 worth every cent

vass · Postby **vass** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:14 am

Hi Johnny

Thanks for the drive mate, all I can say after driving your car I want one on mine. You said it was easy to instal and I can vouch that it performs outstanding.

I like the fact you can instal this yourself and you don't need other non supplied parts.

A true turn key solution out the box it's won me

The car idled perfectly and accelerated linear.

Go to YouTube and look up fast forward if you need some background on the designer and r&d efforts.

Postby **NitroDann** » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:43 am

Ive avoided this thread until now.

There are a few threads here discussing this package, look them up.
Also look up similar threads at miata turbo.net, the most knowledgable mx5 forced induction forum by a huge stretch.

There is no upgrade path, the powercard system is archaic, and you can check miata.net for the slew of destroyed engines due to this, and not a single FFS car has ever made anywhere near the previously claimed 260rwhp (johnny rebel posted this above).

No upgrade path, dangerous engine management, much more expensive than a mini blower/bracket kit/real ecu, and far worse power and torque than a similarly priced kit from begi or FM.

Dann