MX5 vs BRZ vs 86

Lokiel · Postby **Lokiel** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:10 pm

2WD 86 looks more fun than the 4WD BRZ.

Good to see the older NC MX5 hangin' in there - just think how good an ND would be with a bit more grunt. I'd love to see how a supercharded NC would have fared in this race (I'm assuming that was a standard NC since my Japanese is limited to "Hai", "Kamikaze" and "Banzai!").

deviant · Postby **deviant** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:20 pm

BRZ is not AWD. It is 2WD (rear) the same as the 86. They are identical save the trim differences and badging.

Lokiel · Postby **Lokiel** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:43 pm

deviant wrote:BRZ is not AWD. It is 2WD (rear) the same as the 86. They are identical save the trim differences and badging.

I thought 2WD vs 4WD was going to be the differentiator between the Toyota and Subaru?

In the video, the 86 was a lot more tail happy than the BRZ which I assumed was because it only had 2WD vs the BRZ's 4WD.

Maybe I need to read up on them some more.

Still don't like the look of them, their design looks too "try-hard", I prefer something more classic/timeless and under-statedly sexy like my SE/MSM.

PaulF · Postby **PaulF** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:13 pm

BRZ is definitely RWD.

Guran · Postby **Guran** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:33 pm

Lokiel wrote:I thought 2WD vs 4WD was going to be the differentiator between the Toyota and Subaru?

Nope. The only difference is badges and trim level.

In the video, the 86 was a lot more tail happy than the BRZ which I assumed was because it only had 2WD vs the BRZ's 4WD.

Either a difference in set-up of 86 vs BRZ, or the driver's approach to the corners (eg. trail braking).

egads · Postby **egads** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:44 pm

Yeah i read somewhere Subaru has setup the brz to be more "neutral" whereas Toyota has gone for more tail happy oversteer.

JRBasia · Postby **JRBasia** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:00 pm

Yep, they subaru chose a more mild setup so as not to shock subaru drivers with the 'new' rear wheel drive system.

This is the major difference between the two.

Suspense · Postby **Suspense** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:18 pm

Guran wrote:
In the video, the 86 was a lot more tail happy than the BRZ which I assumed was because it only had 2WD vs the BRZ's 4WD.

Either a difference in set-up of 86 vs BRZ, or the driver's approach to the corners (eg. trail braking).

It was Keiichi Tsuchiya, aka "drift king", driving the 86 so it could well be the driver's approach!

D-Train · Postby **D-Train** » Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:35 pm

Considering the power difference to the 5, the little roadster did very well. If it had the same power it definately would have been in for a shot. Had to laugh though when old mate in the Subi missed a gear, he was really beating himself up about it :lol: