Advice on extra quickness for BARMY the SE

Postby **NitroDann** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:03 pm

Nope

Dann

...seriously.

Hjt · Postby **Hjt** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:22 pm

Not debating anything.between se and sp parts, just confirming a change in the turbo will help, a few people use Nissan turbos, I dunno the part numbers though.

davekmoore · Postby **davekmoore** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:27 pm

Hjt wrote:Not debating anything.between se and sp parts, just confirming a change in the turbo will help, a few people use Nissan turbos, I dunno the part numbers though.

Naturally there'd be no point debating SE versus SP. Ever. No-one would want to.

Lokiel · Postby **Lokiel** » Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:54 pm

Hjt wrote:Not debating anything.between se and sp parts, just confirming a change in the turbo will help, a few people use Nissan turbos, I dunno the part numbers though.

The GT2560R is the turbo you're thinking of, it's a stock Nissan turbo and the one FM recommend for MSM owners since it has similar response to the IHI turbo but able to develop about 60HP more.

This is the turbo I plan to upgrade to eventually since FM found the T28 too laggy. Novice1 mentioned that this is not the case at all so is it possible that Garrett have corrected this since FM did their tests? This may be the case since FM tend not to update their product lines much once they have a product in place (development co$t$ money).

davekmoore · Postby **davekmoore** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:39 am

Lokiel wrote:
Hjt wrote:Not debating anything.between se and sp parts, just confirming a change in the turbo will help, a few people use Nissan turbos, I dunno the part numbers though.

The GT2560R is the turbo you're thinking of, it's a stock Nissan turbo and the one FM recommend for MSM owners since it has similar response to the IHI turbo but able to develop about 60HP more.

This is the turbo I plan to upgrade to eventually since FM found the T28 too laggy. Novice1 mentioned that this is not the case at all so is it possible that Garrett have corrected this since FM did their tests? This may be the case since FM tend not to update their product lines much once they have a product in place (development co$t$ money).

Now I'm confused again, just when I though I was seeing sense.

Novice1 · Postby **Novice1** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:56 am

Check out http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/

From what i can see there are 10 t28turbos all good for 300 hp.

Maybe the one Fm tested might have been laggy, but mine certainly isn,t.

Plus i have no idea which one of the 10 mine is.

cheers novice1

Hjt · Postby **Hjt** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:47 am

Atleast there is plenty of options, I know my turbo spools from 2800rpm, full boost (6psi) is nearly instantaneous.

timk · Postby **timk** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:10 am

I'm pretty sure you have a 2560 Ron...

Hjt · Postby **Hjt** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:50 am

Nope, t28. I'll get the series number later on. SE had the t25

timk · Postby **timk** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:55 am

The SE has an IHI RHF5:
http://www.ihi-turbo.com/turbo_RHE-RHF.htm

Ron (Novice1) is running an AVO kit which I'm quite sure come with a 320hp GT2560R. A lot of people call these T28s.

Hjt · Postby **Hjt** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:19 pm

You appear correct, have not checked engine yet, but was reading a few pages of various information pages.

Gt25r. Appears to have the gt28 housing with gt25 internals :s

Edit: what Lokiel typed now makes sense to me.

I had 2 turbos in mind, when I should have had 3!

davekmoore · Postby **davekmoore** » Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:22 pm

Novice1 wrote:Check out http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/

From what i can see there are 10 t28turbos all good for 300 hp.

Maybe the one Fm tested might have been laggy, but mine certainly isn,t.

Plus i have no idea which one of the 10 mine is.

cheers novice1

If BARMY is already at 174rwkw and we assume 40kw of mechanical losses, that's 214 flywheel kw which is 285bhp. I probably wouldn't be looking for only a 15bhp/5% improvement.