Non Genuine Windscreen. Are Obriens telling the truth

Pamex · Postby **Pamex** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 5:55 pm

Shannon's don't insist on O'brien's, but WOB are set up automatically on the Shannon's system. Go with them, no paperwork and no money exchanged. Someone else? Pay in advance and get re-imbursed by Shannon's. Maybe. You have to get quotes and run it past Shannon's first.

That was my experience as a Shannon's customer. No one said Shannon's 'insisted' on WOB, they're the company that are easiest to go through as they're affiliated. Congratulations for once again mentioning that not all fitters are the same, Morlock. I am shocked as I had absolutely no idea, and I guess no-one else would too. I might go and have a cup of tea to calm my nerves after that news.

Mr Morlock · Postby **Mr Morlock** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:02 pm

Pamex needs to keep the antennae up. SNS tells us of the probs with WOB and some of us already had reservations. Why do we think some co's give you "free" windscreens. Its like all sourcing- you do some homework and talk to those that know and perhaps you make a good call not merely the one that does the most advertising. Choose a fitter who cares. There is onwe well known body repairer in Melb who do not use WOB and do work for Shannons without need for their assessor to visit and there are no complications. PS I do not use Specsavers either.

Pamex · Postby **Pamex** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:25 pm

Morlock: I've used O'brien's personally. They did an absolutely spot on perfect job with a new seal too. Should I publish a peer-reviewed paper on this and post the reference? Would that satisfy you?

I wasn't saying you have to use O'Brien's. I was stating that they are Shannon's affiliated supplier, as you seemed to try and indicate otherwise. I was correcting your mistake.

You have reservations. Congratulations. That indicates you have had no personal experience with them.

I have worked with companies that also use O'Brien's amongst others, with few problems. Seriously, for the number of vehicles we did, it would be only a handful out of a hundred or so. That's not a bad track record.

Oh and as it obviously wasn't clear, when I said 'Go with them' I wasn't saying YOU HAVE TO GO WITH THEM AND NO-ONE ELSE. I was saying "If you go with them, you don't have paperwork or money exchange.

And yes, I did do my homework Morlock. Unless working in the industry and having first hand experience counts for nothing. I really must get around to publishing this paper.

Steampunk · Postby **Steampunk** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:55 pm

Locutus wrote:my NA8 original japanese windscreen with 240,000kms of stone chips in it is far superior, optically, then the WOB replacement by the last owner in my SP. i forget that it is a non original windscreen, but every now and then i am annoyed with optical distortion in the screen. just sayin.

That's gotta be one crap piece of glass!
My old NA8 was the same, riddled with tiny chips, but none serious enough to warrant replacement and I avoided it for this thread's reason.

emex · Postby **emex** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:06 pm

Pamex wrote:
Oh and as it obviously wasn't clear, when I said 'Go with them' I wasn't saying YOU HAVE TO GO WITH THEM AND NO-ONE ELSE. I was saying "If you go with them, you don't have paperwork or money exchange.

Dont they even go to extreme length of saying the exact same thing on the TV commercial as well? The whole no money no paperwork biz?

Tedsmx5 · Postby **Tedsmx5** » Mon Nov 07, 2011 9:15 pm

I'm about to get a new windscreen for my NA8 and I will except only a Mazda screen and seal who ever does the job, I'm sick of being told lies like "It's not avalibale or our seal is just as good as Mazda" I just walk away :roll:

now I'm sick of the SH*T you get from so many ASS*OLES. Their is plenty of other supplier out there talk to them all!!
From a Grumpy old MX5 owner.
Ted

Muzdaman · Postby **Muzdaman** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:54 pm

So I need a new windscreen for rego on my 91.

Does anyone know of a supplier that can get a new windscreen with no blue tint and no mirror mount.

thanks.

snshami · Postby **snshami** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:35 am

The second screen that WOB fitted is actually a good screen. It does not have any optical distortions in it. BTW, I checked and one cannot buy an OEM Mazda windscreen any longer.

Of the two installers one was good and the other hopeless. WOB also screwed up by ordering the wrong glass.

For the life of me I cannot understand how he could have been an experienced installer and have tried to force the seal on the wrong way.

One difference between a small owner operator and a large business is that in the small business the operator is directly affected by the outcome. If he stuffs up he pays for new parts out of his own pocket. He would also need more word of mouth business because hed have less of an advertising budget. On the other hand the large business can back up their warranty more reliably.

Happy Australia Day Everyone !!

initial D · Postby **initial D** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:36 am

I payed $340 on my NB

pcmx5 · Postby **pcmx5** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:51 pm

I had the sandblasted look on my original screen and self funded a replacement though National Windscreens @$210 fitted,great job. Couple of months later I had a rock thrown up by a truck and the screen was again replaced by National with Shannons footing the bill. Very happy with the service from Shannons and National and with the quality of the screens.

Peter.

Drek · Postby **Drek** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:50 am

Hi - If it's of any interest to anyone, years ago I was speaking to Peter Moran at Moran Motor Glass at Tingalpa (Brisbane), about a kit car screen. He was telling me that he is the manufacturer, of just about every type of screen available in Australia (he was getting them made in Vietnam to ADR specs), and he also supplied O'briens. He has a huge warehouse with some very odd screens on the racks.. The screens I bought from him were absolutely perfect in every way(black bordered and tinted), and obviously would need to be perfect for ADR's, and very reasonably priced. It may be possible to order a tint free screen from him, or ask him what his screens include as far as mirror mounts etc.. Cheers Derek

Sean · Postby **Sean** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:42 pm

I got a new screen in my NA6 when I got it repainted back in 2004(ish).

WOB did the job with a non genuine screen, but a genuine rubber. Did a fantastic job for $165 - remeber that was about 8 years ago though. I went with WOB cause the panel shop recommended them as the best in the area.

I was super happy with the screen and workmanship.

Another consideration is making sure the old screen is removed carefully, you don't want them to scratch up the A pillar / window frame, I've seen that happen and result in must around the screen... Bad deal and you won't know til it's too late and requires a costly repair. :cry: