Advise on Adaptronic for an SP

bear2230 · Postby **bear2230** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:02 am

Hello all,

So as most of you all know SP,s can be a bit of a pig to drive at times. Especially with the T-Piece mod.
Backing off in boost can be really unpleasant.
Mania will install and tune the new Adaptronic for $1700.00ish. This will supposedly make it much much better.
The T-piece would be changed back to standard and the boost increased and tuned through the computer.

I am concerned that if we fiddle with the safe factory tune there is a chance I'll blow the thing up. I'm not Looking to run massive psi it's on 8ish now and thats 145 rwkwasps and that's enough for now.
To me it sounds like a no brainer but would love to get some feedback from those in the know.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Richard.

Postby **NitroDann** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:23 am

You have answered all of your owns questions. Although I think 1700 is bloody steep.

Dann

rascal · Postby **rascal** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:20 am

NitroDann wrote:You have answered all of your owns questions. Although I think 1700 is bloody steep.

Dann

$1700 fitted and tuned isn't bad seeing as the owner doesnt have to touch anything.
The ECU itself is $990, the plug and play harness is $380 which means they are only charging $330 for tuning, which is at least half what a lot of decent tuning shops will charge for a brand new tune.

Its only steep if you CAN do the harness wiring and tuning yourself, which most can't/don't...

BadBong · Postby **BadBong** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:35 am

rascal wrote:
NitroDann wrote:You have answered all of your owns questions. Although I think 1700 is bloody steep.

Dann

$1700 fitted and tuned isn't bad seeing as the owner doesnt have to touch anything.
The ECU itself is $990, the plug and play harness is $380 which means they are only charging $330 for tuning, which is at least half what a lot of decent tuning shops will charge for a brand new tune.

Its only steep if you CAN do the harness wiring and tuning yourself, which most can't/don't...

Agree with that comment.

Richard - what are the other benefits of doing this modification other than getting rid of the power backlash? (assuming that you've done a T-piece mod)

I might be interested as well if it has other real-world benefits (not interested in track-oriented benefits for the time being). Perhaps we can get 3 to 5 lined up for Mania to give us a group discount? :mrgreen:

Apu · Postby **Apu** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:04 am

There's a "hijacked" thread on the sponsors section for group buy suggestions...I think there are 4 of us that are keen.

I'm set for an Adaptronic and will do that in the late Q1 next year, so unless we get a group buy soon, I will go ahead.

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:09 am

List price on mania is 1900 installed and tuned. Are you getting a deal?

Also the ecu mania use according to their literature is the select ie the 440.

adaptronic price for a nb plugin select is 1600....
Install is easy, or it should be and a tune on a stock motor will be almost pull the file, load it and check all is ok.

300 extra isn't cheap, but I think reasonable. If its on the dyno for an hour.

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Postby **NitroDann** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:16 am

This is how it works.

You buy an ecu.
You plug it in.
You PM a fellow member here for a copy of his map.
You upload it to your new ecu via USB.

Done.

And thats how mania will do it also.

Dann

BadBong · Postby **BadBong** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:45 am

We're assuming that there's a standard map on the Adaptronic for SPs here... and that someone is willing to share.

Richard, when are you thinking about getting it?

Apu, we might be getting different maps but maybe we can buy the same hardware?

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:56 am

Mania will have a standard map. The ecu ships with on even. So it should be a case of plug in ecu and turn key.

I think a bigger issue would be finding someone with the same mods not someone who will share. Most 5 ers are fairly friendly.

depend on much you like drive in drive out service.

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bear2230 · Postby **bear2230** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:58 am

BadBong wrote:We're assuming that there's a standard map on the Adaptronic for SPs here... and that someone is willing to share.

Richard, when are you thinking about getting it?

Apu, we might be getting different maps but maybe we can buy the same hardware?

Vic, I am getting it for sure. maybe Hammer as well. He was the one who told me about it. I’m not sure but I think Benny has it already?
I would be more than happy to share my map.

BadBong · Postby **BadBong** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:14 am

Thanks mate.

Benny has the piggyback from Torque??(something) in QLD.

You have a different diff... would that affect the map?

I'm assuming that getting a map from another 'similar' but not identical SP would be a better start than from scratch? (I have NO experience nor knowledge of tuning)

Postby **NitroDann** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:44 am

Even with different mods maps will be almost identical, even when one car is stock and one has an exhaust 5psi more boost and an intercooler, a single pull on the dyno will determine whether it even needs half an hour of tuning or not.

Dann

sailaholic · Postby **sailaholic** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:57 pm

Buy direct from adaptronic then!

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93_Clubman · Postby **93_Clubman** » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:31 pm

bear2230 wrote:I am concerned that if we fiddle with the safe factory tune there is a chance I'll blow the thing up.

Chip Torque on the Gold Coast, who've a very solid reputation, remapped the OEM NB8B ECU for the SP, but think it's fair to say it was always a compromise, particularly given it was done a decade ago.

Wouldn't hesitate switching to an aftermarket parrallel ECU solution, especially given how much technology has moved on.