B6 m62????

Mr nanotech · Postby **Mr nanotech** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:51 am

I had my heart set on saving up for a Jackson Racing m62 hot side supercharger kit for my 1990 na6 mx5 but sadly I can't seem to find one at all.
Turns out they're all for BP motors.
I did some research and found FFS used to make a hotside m62 kit for the 1600's a while back but ceased in favor of coldside kits.

Does anyone know if it's possible to find an m62 hotside kit for a B6 motor? it's kind of annoying me a little because I don't really want to settle for the m45.

jerrah · Postby **jerrah** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:13 am

Make your own?

It's just a bracket, tensioner and piping.

Nothing really wrong with the M45 and if you can do some fabrication there is plenty of 2nd hand MP45/MP62's floating around which can be adapted to your purpose. Think of some factory supercharged cars that could be a donor for you! Benefit also is a home job could be made for the fraction of the cost of a 'kit'.

If you were going for a '62' you'll want a 6 rib belt or you'll likely get lots of slip.

jerrah · Postby **jerrah** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:22 am

Bell also make a coldside MP62 kit: http://www.bellengineering.net/product_info.php?cPath=5_80&products_id=457

There is better support for the BP motor, you could do a motor swap then fit anything you like or go the common route of turbo B6?

Lots of turbo options out there.

jerrah · Postby **jerrah** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:28 am

nanotech wrote:I don't really want to settle for the m45.

(yes me again...) what power goals are you hoping to achieve with your modification? Have you planned engine management/fueling? Brakes, diff, gearbox?

charlie_91 · Postby **charlie_91** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:37 pm

Just pick up a rotrex diy kit. Everything you'd ever want and more

Saffa · Postby **Saffa** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:43 pm

Nanotech, I have one of the FFS hotside 1.6 kits. I know they dont make them anymore, but have you asked Tom if he has any of the old stuff likes brackets laying around? Could save the hassle of having to manufacture stuff yourself/pay someone to do it for you.

Mr nanotech · Postby **Mr nanotech** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:30 am

Thanks guys, sorry I took so long to get back to you all. I'm a fair way off purchasing still, I'm still putting funds together. The main reason I put this up was because I was trying to work out all my finances and figure out exactly how much I'd need. That's when I noticed all the hotside jackson racing kits were 1.8 BP only. So I looked into FFS only to find they didn't make them anymore. I wasn't really planning to settle for m45 or go turbo since, well you know what it's like when you have a goal. Nothing quite measures up to what YOU want lol.

Jerrah:
I'm looking to crack about 180-200bhp with this setup. Will be using the stock powercard at first but later switching to something standalone like an Adaptronic plug and play etc. Not sure on stopping power or gearbox yet. I'm just trying to pen this job out and work out what it's going to cost me on paper so I can start putting my funds away with a concrete goal.
As for swapping to BP, doesn't seem worth the money swapping engines for a whole 200cc's. I know there is a lot more support but I'm sure it's cheaper to adapt something to fit the B6 than it is to swap the motor out and THEN start modding.
I've considered Turbo btw, I have my T28 setup scrawled up with prices and parts in a notepad doc. But would rather s/c the car. Turbo is the backup plan if I can't go with the m62.

Charlie_91:
Cheers man! Haven't seen the Rotrex kits, I'll have to dig up some info on them. Thanks for the heads up.

Saffa:
Sorry to sound a little ignorant but who is this 'Tom' you speak of?

jerrah · Postby **jerrah** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:27 am

hint: (cheap way to get a sc)

Find a Mini Cooper S MP45. (ebay, wreckers, etc)
If you don't like fabrication buy this: http://www.trlanefabs.co.uk/SUPERCHARGER-PARTS.html

16% SC reduction pulley (10psi) http://www.kavsmotorsport.com/mini-tuning-products/mini-cooper-s-supercharger-tuning

And maybe a DIYPNP Megasquirt or another EMS for fuel and spark? I'd also highly recommend a intercooler. According to figures I've seen overseas should get you close to 200whp.

Or wait for a hotside MP62 kit to come up for sale 2nd hand.

Who is Tom? Tom@FFS.

Saffa · Postby **Saffa** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:17 pm

jerrah wrote:Or wait for a hotside MP62 kit to come up for sale 2nd hand.

Who is Tom? Tom@FFS.

I could have been swayed to part ways with my kit a few months ago :shock:

, at the moment thats a no go though

.

Yeah, Tom is the owner of FFS and a sponsor on this site, click the button down the bottom of the page.

jerrah · Postby **jerrah** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:44 pm

Would love to see your car sometime Saffa.

Postby **NitroDann** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:28 pm

Why no t28 setup?

You been in one? Kills an m62 anyday I reckon. you get your 250rwhp , or 200 or 15 whatever you want for the same price.

Dann

Mr nanotech · Postby **Mr nanotech** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:44 pm

I didn't think the t28 had such a powerplant in it. But is that running stock internals or with cams etc?

Postby **NitroDann** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:55 pm

Dead stock, t28 flows enough for 280rwhp. but your bottom end will only take 250.

Thats your stock bottom end limit on any correctly implemented forced setup, but with the t28 its bolt on a boost controller and make 250, not bolt on 2 new pulleys, overspin the charger buy a new one, do it again, still dont make 250, buy a turbo anyways..

Dann