HID Conversion Kit

[noddi85]

Not to be a pain, but I really don't like being in front of cars with these lights fitted.

Jules

Na, that's not being a pain. It's being rude having one installed and not having it adjusted.

A few months ago, a POS Starlet had one of these fitted and was sitting right behind me an faarrrkk it was bright. So I changed lanes braked, tucked in behind him and accelerated again and drove with the high beems on for a few minutes.

I don;t think he like that too much.

that is the best thing to do to sum1.. Its worse when they dont realise what your on about though

[simon_mx5]

Has anyone here installed HID's on an NB, im trying to figure the best way to run the wires from the Battery to the engine,

[Locutus]

if you buy the right plug & play kit, you shouldn't need to fiddle around with battery wires. it should be plug and play with the existing headlight wiring harness. hardest bit is deciding how to mount the ballasts in/around the engine bay.

[Mr Morlock]

for anyone with normal eyesight or one who wears glasses the standard headlamps on an MX5 are good- not like old cars with sealed beams etc. The NB with projectors are excellent. HID kits are illegal and they often irritate other drivers due to dazzle etc- save your money for something useful. If there was ever a fire in the car related to fitment of hid's your insurance co may not pay- does anyone bother to advise them of a modification? I guess no.

[Locutus]

does anyone bother to advise them of a modification? I guess no.

i informed my insurer.

[simon_mx5]

I understand they are classed as illegal
I just need some assistance in the best way/place to run wires through to the engine bay.

Cheers

[slimx]

HID kits shuold not be ran directly from the battery, they dont have their own fuses or anything.

I have installed heaps of hid kits..

As for laws..
Right now..
To have a HID kit your car requires headlight washers, and a projector lens on the lowbeam (NB 01+ stock). Don't know the reason for the washers something to do with reflections or dirt glariness probably.

Anyway..
As for you trying to install yuor HID kit if your HID kit is WRONG.. and does not have a connector, or you bought your kit off someone who chpoped it off.

for NB Series 1 (99-00)
Should be two wires coming out of your bulb to your kit, 2 wires coming out of your Ballast with a connector (if you dont have this connector)
Find the STOCK HEADLIGHT PLUG..
Bodgey way:
chop the stock headlight connector, strip all 3 wires, strip your 2 hid wires touch each one to each one (WHILE your headlights are turned on until it works). Tape/solder together (tape off the one that doesnt work on your car).

Good way:
Buy your self little metal clamps? or i dont know what they are called but they are like thin metal pins which fit into your headlight stock connector, just plug each one into each one until you see it works (best way to do this is, plug in 1 to the connector, then plug the one into both see if it works, if not unplug wire 1 into next socket repeat the same thing with wire 2). Until it works (remember your headlights must be on to do this)

Kits with highbeam+lowbeam, honestly never flocked around with these ones i hate the way they work its very bodgey. I have never personally hooked these up without using normal connectors and clips that come from a proper hid kit so i cant garunty this will work with them.

for NB series 2+ headlights (9006 globe)
from the hid globe to ballast 2 wires, from ballast to YOUR STOCK headlight connector there should be 2 wires (an expensive hid kit) will hvae no positive negative so it will work straight away) cheap ones just try both ways one will work.
(Should come stock with pins as 9006 usualy does not have connectors)


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If your just worried about power, for the HID dw your headlight connector can easily run the HID KIT DO NOT use the battery, if you do this (in the past ive been through it) if the headlights are on and u start your car im not sure how alternators work but it seems to give more power when u start the car, this will blow yuor ballast. (wont always happen) but has happened TWICE.

ƒü¢k that was a long post. lol
and before anyone says thats not how you do it blah blah..
I KNOW, but this guy obviously DOEST HAVE the proper connectors or hid ikt so i just gave him a bodgey solution which should work.

[Mr Morlock]

would you really like a bodgy solution? Headlight washers was required because dust etc on the lenses can cause dazzle ie affecting other motorists. In the early days of HID on OE headlamps systems the electronics was very tricky and faulty product could cause problems - the bulb was only part of the system- the bulb makers did not make the electronics. I am not qualified in any sense to suggest installation methods - one would need training as an auto elec. Personally I would not recommend this to anyone. At the very least get an auto elec to do it- if they are prepared to.

[simon_mx5]

I hooked up the HIDs to the battery, the headlight controls it on and off, dipped the headlights. Looks good.


Just to add to the debate, I believe projector headlamps are not needed by law, look at an 05 forester XT, standard with HID's, no projectors

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[slimx]

Not to sure bout forester. Maybe the reflector is contained? As in only a small part of the headlight maybe reflects?

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[Mr Morlock]

not sure what you mean Simon. Headlight cleaning was , and as far as I am aware , still required for any headlamp system ie low beam/ high beam. A projector lamp normally sits behind a lens like an NB P2 and consequently if there was an hid light source there should be a lens cleaning system. If you have a hid aftermarket lamp like a driving lamp it does not have to have lense cleaning- but that is not really relevant to the headlamp conversion.

[mmx005]

My NB8A had these hid's http://www.musecret.com.au/category13_1.htm and they were really good. execpt for 1 issue, i lost the blue high beam light on the dash, something to do with the way the kit is wired. it comes back if you put the standard globes back in.

come with all the proper clips/plugs/fuses etc required and were easy to install (the plugs only fit one way so you cannot muck it up).

as far as connection to the battery went, i went to the main fuse box under the bonnet and found a big power lead(was well covered by the box) that was lugged and a bolt that happened to fit the lug on the wiring of my hid's.i disconectted the battery then used the bolt for the main supply for the hid's. im pretty sure its the main lead from the battery.

i ran the hid's like this for 2.5 years up and down the f3,3hrs a day, 6 days a week and everywhere else i drove untill i blew a globe. i wasnt gonna fork out full price for just a globe. i drove everywhere with my head lights on so i could be seen by the 4x4 soccer mums as the boys in blue DIDNT like my driving lights.

I NEVER HAD AN ELECTRICAL PROBLEM WITH THEM.

im now going to consider these from jaycar as you can buy spare globes/ ballast's if required.

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.as ... BCATID=375

Hope this helps

Ben

[dave2221]

this should be how it works


you connect the standard wiring to the connector, battery is there for hi/lo

If yours doesnt look like that, go spend $120 and get the one that does....

Also, AFIK, HID's are LEGAL if you have self leveling headlamps AND washers

Nothing to do with projectors.

Since the MX5 has neither, your breaking the law, and if you have a head on accident, and the other driver says "your headlights dazzled them"

Expect to have your a-hole made a few sizes larger..... especially if there is injury, as it could become a criminal offence.

I am not saying i didnt do it in the past, but really..... is it all worth it?

[Manusdei]

Since HID's are illegal, whats the best way to increase the amount of light on the ground in an NA? I've already upgraded the globes, but the actual spray of light is still crap tastic. my GFs new corolla has better low beams then my hi beams

[Charlie Brown]

I’ve just put in this Xtreme kit into the NC using the 4300k bulbs that equate to the OEM bulb type. http://www.kbcarstuff.com/HID-Kits-s/216.htm It comes with dual ballasts, dual wiring harness with relays, fuses, Phillips bulbs, etc, etc.

I decided to go for a quality kit and pay a little more as I’ve read a few problem reports on the cheaper Chinese kits being faulty straight from purchase. With the AUD being at 1.08 to the USD the end price for the Xtreme kit was AU$241.10 delivered.

The NC uses an H7 bulb in a projector style headlamp, but a word of warning about these kits, you need to get the H7 bulb adaptor http://www.kbcarstuff.com/OEM-Bulb-Adaptors-s/125.htm I didn’t and the postage was very expensive.

I read reports on Miata.net about how people installed them into the NC as the access to the lamps are VERY restricted. Most US enthusiasts removed the nose cone and then the headlight assembly to gain access to the left lamp. I decided that this was too time consuming so I removed the three bolts holding the fuse box/ECU and move it just enough to get my contorted hand into the back of the light assembly. After three attempts to get the HID bulb aligned correctly taking about 15 minutes each attempt, it would probably have been easier to use the US method. Attempt number four will be tonight. I’m going to modify the adaptor as it sits a little high on the supplied bulb in the NC housing.
The right lamp is easier to get to and sits OK in the housing but I’ll probably modify that to match the left side. The beam cuts off at the same level as the original halogen bulb and doesn’t appear to have any flaring when I view it from the front of the car.
I’ll update the report when I get the left side sorted.