Which road/track tyres?

sticky nicky · Postby **sticky nicky** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:24 pm

Hi Guys,

I am looking at changing my road tyres for road/track for my once a month sprint/autokana events. Im looking for more grip and hopefully faster times, but dont want to go as far as R specs.
I have two makes on my mind and wonder if anyone has these or knows if they perform well.

1. Yokohama AD08's

2. Achillies 123S

Would appreciate any feed back :-)

Thanks Nicky.

Hjt · Postby **Hjt** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:28 pm

I have the Achilles tyres I don't track much, there noisy at low speeds but provide great grip

I would recommend them. There is a few existing tyre threads you could find

hamx5ter · Postby **hamx5ter** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:02 pm

The Achilles are a good tyre, with great grip, but the wear characteristics is quite poor. I managed to get about 7500km out of the first set of 123(not s), incl. about 3-4 trackdays. The second set of 123S is apparently a slightly softer compound and it's worn almost to the treadbars after only 5000 (1 track-day and mostly spirited driving).

This makes them mostly a pain for the wet, so you have to change them around, even though you can thrash them on the track till they're completely gone..

They're cheap enough to replace without too much pain to the wallet, and work well as a track-day / road tyre, but that said, if you swap these tyres around twice / year, aren't you better off with KU36 or Adrenalins? Or pay twice as much as the achilles and get Dunlop Star Specs.

Just my thoughts..

bensale · Postby **bensale** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:21 pm

The Dunlop DZ1 Star Specs are a phenomenal tyre, I can't really fault them as far as a road/race hybrid tyre.

Great wet or dry, lots of grip feel and very progressive. Tyre life is not terrible but not amazing... Mine have done 4 track days, probably 2000km general road use and a 3000km trip around Tas and the GOR and have about half there tread left... I guess I can't really complain

deviant · Postby **deviant** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:58 pm

I went from Bridgestone Adrenaline RE001's to Toyo R1R's and took 3 seconds off my times on Barbagallo short circuit.

I have not used them in the wet or used them hard on the road.

JBT · Postby **JBT** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:31 am

I went from Toyo R1R to Kumho KU36, took 2 secs off my times at Lakeside and saved a bag of $$. Excellent in the wet too.

ForceMajeure · Postby **ForceMajeure** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:46 am

LOL.......if anyone can take 2/3 seconds off KU36's, we may have a winner. :wink:

Guran · Postby **Guran** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:05 am

ForceMajeure wrote:LOL.......if anyone can take 2/3 seconds off KU36's, we may have a winner.

I think you'll find the winner would be the Dunlop Star Specs. :lol:

hamx5ter · Postby **hamx5ter** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:34 am

Guran wrote:
ForceMajeure wrote:LOL.......if anyone can take 2/3 seconds off KU36's, we may have a winner.

I think you'll find the winner would be the Dunlop Star Specs.

Wait Guran... can't you run the StarSpecs in standard class? you'd knock 7 seconds off your time :lol:

Guran · Postby **Guran** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:48 am

hamx5ter wrote:
Guran wrote:
ForceMajeure wrote:LOL.......if anyone can take 2/3 seconds off KU36's, we may have a winner.

I think you'll find the winner would be the Dunlop Star Specs.

Wait Guran... can't you run the StarSpecs in standard class? you'd knock 7 seconds off your time

In Victoria yes! :mrgreen:

In NSW no! :cry:

The tumbling of Victorian lap records in standard and clubman classes over the last year or so is largely due to everyone swapping to Star Specs.

jerrah · Postby **jerrah** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:30 pm

How would the 595-RS-R compare to the KU36?

Obviously 195/50/15 vs 205/50/15 since they don't come in the same sizes.

bensale · Postby **bensale** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:12 pm

595 RS-R's are semi slicks, the KU36 is a road tyre with strong performance bias.

The 595's will be better around the track. The KU36 from all accounts i've heard is not that great in the rain compared to the Z1's or the R1R's so the 595's would probably be comparable to them. Not sure what there life it like, although they are a good price for the performance...

I would say the z1 star spec is the best all rounder though, and from the sounds of it perfect for what 'sticky nicky' has in mind providing he can get them within what ever his price range is.

sticky nicky · Postby **sticky nicky** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:45 pm

Thanks for the input guys........by the way, sticky nicky is a girl!

bootz · Postby **bootz** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:01 am

Davex3 wrote:
sticky nicky wrote:Thanks for the input guys........by the way, sticky nicky is a girl!

Lies, no girls on the internets.

Not true, lots of girls on the webnet, but usually they don't have many clothes on and tend not to hang around car forums.

Nicky if you do get new tyres I might be interested in chucking you a few bucks for your old ones, my fronts are cactus and my budget is busted. :oops: