Bridgestone Adrenalin RE001 vs PP2 vs rest?

[jules]

So that's a thumbs up for the PS3's then?

Jules

[SPy vs. SPy]

New Michelins on the Luxo Barge a week ago, plus an alignment = pure bliss, turns, stops, corners, all as quiet as a mouse.

I'm really going to have to think long and hard re KU36 vs PS3s on the 5, plus the ongoing Queensland Wetness requires wet grip supremacy.

The Michelins just do everything unbelievably well and last and last. The current PP2s have been flogged and they still won't give up.

My opinions of the Bridgestones are back on page 4 and that drive down the M1 still makes my teeth chatter.

[93_Clubman]

Glad I made the switch to PP2s a few years ago when my Bridgestone Potenza GIIIs needed replacing - not sure I'd want to go back now.

[deviant]

I have not really read the thread properly but I have RE001's on my car. Fine for fast road use but overheat badly and in a short time on track, infact completely useless on track. I am always amazed how a tyre can feel so good on the road but then be completely overwhelmed by track use.

Not sure if I can stretch to semi-slicks so I am going to try Toyo R1R's next.

[JBT]

Not sure if I can stretch to semi-slicks so I am going to try Toyo R1R's next.

Try Kumho KU36s - far better bang for buck. (I've tried both)

[pcmx5]

After having Yoko s drives on my LE i find the Michelin Pp 2's on the 2007 to have good grip but are very noisy especially with the hardtop up..Have Pp3's on my Renault and reckon anyone who liked the 2's will be delighted with both the grip and the low noise level of the 3's.

Peter.

[marcusus]

I have not really read the thread properly but I have RE001's on my car. Fine for fast road use but overheat badly and in a short time on track, infact completely useless on track. I am always amazed how a tyre can feel so good on the road but then be completely overwhelmed by track use.

Not sure if I can stretch to semi-slicks so I am going to try Toyo R1R's next.

Hmmm... That's rather surprising. I got my best times at Wakefield on Adrenalins. I agree they weren't the best in the wet after they'd been used a bit, but I didn't really have a problem with them in the dry, both on the street and on the track.

[de Bounce]

I have not really read the thread properly but I have RE001's on my car. Fine for fast road use but overheat badly and in a short time on track, infact completely useless on track. I am always amazed how a tyre can feel so good on the road but then be completely overwhelmed by track use.

You might want to read the thread properly and also read this one.
I believe there are/were 2 types of Adrenalin RE001 - those made in Australia (discontinued) and those made in Japan
Each had different strengths and weaknesses (The Aust one was crap in the wet where the Jap one was OK)
Without stating which tyre you are referring to makes the statements fairly meaningless.

Hmmm... That's rather surprising. I got my best times at Wakefield on Adrenalins. I agree they weren't the best in the wet after they'd been used a bit, but I didn't really have a problem with them in the dry, both on the street and on the track.

As marcusus has stated, a number of forum members have turned fast and consistent time on RE001's
Your issue may be more a set-up problem.

I have a set of Jap 205/45-16 RE001 and have not noticed any performance drop-off over a session!
My times are not especially fast, however they are consistent from lap 2 to the end of the session.
After a session in the wet at Sandown the RE001's performed much better and faster than a similar MX5 on KU36's.

[deviant]

Not sure if I can stretch to semi-slicks so I am going to try Toyo R1R's next.

Try Kumho KU36s - far better bang for buck. (I've tried both)

Interesting. I was always under the impression that the Toyo with its rating of 140 is a better performer than the KU36. Especially if it is buffed.

My car is only dríven to / from and on track so tyre life is not important to me so bang for buck is a lower requirement than performance.

I have not really read the thread properly but I have RE001's on my car. Fine for fast road use but overheat badly and in a short time on track, infact completely useless on track. I am always amazed how a tyre can feel so good on the road but then be completely overwhelmed by track use.

Not sure if I can stretch to semi-slicks so I am going to try Toyo R1R's next.

Hmmm... That's rather surprising. I got my best times at Wakefield on Adrenalins. I agree they weren't the best in the wet after they'd been used a bit, but I didn't really have a problem with them in the dry, both on the street and on the track.

I found them terrible on Barbagallo. They were done in 4 laps. All 4 of them have turned blue and have melted rubber smeared across them all the way around.

Under brakes they squirmed around badly and power down was terrible. I really had to wait wait wait before putting the power in.

My car has coilovers, LSD, monster brakes and over 200BHP at the wheels.

I have not really read the thread properly but I have RE001's on my car. Fine for fast road use but overheat badly and in a short time on track, infact completely useless on track. I am always amazed how a tyre can feel so good on the road but then be completely overwhelmed by track use.

You might want to read the thread properly and also read this one.
I believe there are/were 2 types of Adrenalin RE001 - those made in Australia (discontinued) and those made in Japan
Each had different strengths and weaknesses (The Aust one was crap in the wet where the Jap one was OK)
Without stating which tyre you are referring to makes the statements fairly meaningless.

Hmmm... That's rather surprising. I got my best times at Wakefield on Adrenalins. I agree they weren't the best in the wet after they'd been used a bit, but I didn't really have a problem with them in the dry, both on the street and on the track.

As marcusus has stated, a number of forum members have turned fast and consistent time on RE001's
Your issue may be more a set-up problem.

I have a set of Jap 205/45-16 RE001 and have not noticed any performance drop-off over a session!
My times are not especially fast, however they are consistent from lap 2 to the end of the session.
After a session in the wet at Sandown the RE001's performed much better and faster than a similar MX5 on KU36's.

I bought my tyres about 6 months back from Bob Jane so no idea their country of origin.

As I said though, on the street they have been a great tyre. Quiet, grippy, progressive and cope fine for fast road use but on track they are completely overwhelmed. Maybe it is my car, maybe it is me...I just dont get on with them on track though. They go grainy, overheat and squirm all over the place.

[de Bounce]

I have not really read the thread properly but I have RE001's on my car. Fine for fast road use but overheat badly and in a short time on track, infact completely useless on track. I am always amazed how a tyre can feel so good on the road but then be completely overwhelmed by track use.

I found them terrible on Barbagallo. They were done in 4 laps. All 4 of them have turned blue and have melted rubber smeared across them all the way around.
Under brakes they squirmed around badly and power down was terrible. I really had to wait wait wait before putting the power in.
My car has coilovers, LSD, monster brakes and over 200BHP at the wheels.

Let me guess
sh*t load of power, big brakes and a LSD and you wonder why a street tyre cant cope on the track.
Are you serious.

I bought my tyres about 6 months back from Bob Jane so no idea their country of origin.

Have a read HERE which might help you understand a little more about tyres and how the whole balance thing works 'power - brakes - suspension - tyres and drivers skill'

[Okibi]

Yeah, sounds like you need an R comp they're designed to work well at track temps, street tyres have to work well at much colder temps.

[deviant]

Are you serious.

That was kinda my point, on my car on the tracks I run on they are crap. On the road on the same car they are fine.

[Caffeine]

Are you serious.

That was kinda my point, on my car on the tracks I run on they are crap. On the road on the same car they are fine.

Pretty much any road tyre you try and put that sort of power through on the track is going to suck.

I've had 2 sets of the japanese made RE001's in 205/45-16, and they're the best tyres I've dríven on. (having done a quarter of a million km's in my MX5, that's a fair few tyres too)

I also find they work better a slightly higher pressures than other tyres I've used (36 PSI vs 34 for the original ER30's)

[Guran]

I just had a new set of four RE001 Adrenalins fitted in 185/60R14 so I could get through rego (the outer shoulders were slightly chipped after a full season of track days). The store had eight tyres in stock, four were old stock made in Australia, and four were new stock made in Taiwan. Much of a muchness and same price, so I went with the Aussie ones. Bridgestone also have a deal on at the moment where you get a $50 Caltex fuel card with every purchase of four tyres.

I've also been told that some 185/60R14s are made in Thailand, while other sizes are still coming from Japan. All are said to be manufactured using the same processes and materials, and comply with Bridgestone's quality standards. Time will tell if that's the case.

[Caffeine]

I've just had michelin pilot sport 3's fitted to my other car, meant to be a step up from the PP2

225/45-17, $249 each. They seem very pleasant so far.