MX5 Concourse 2010 at The Australian Motorlife Museum

[Luke]

Hey guys

Just reviewing the concourse day.

Nice and Sunny all day and warm, the rain held out even though clouds seemed to be passing by.

Decent turnout about 60-80 from what I could tell.

And some nice old cars around.



And now to my grumpy bit.

Can anyone explain why I got a 0 out of 10 for non standards rims when I was in modifed NB class.
I would understand why if I entered in standard class, but it made absolutley no sense why I get 0 when I am in modifed.

Reading the rules again just now it says these 2 things which relate to wheels and tyres.

Section 1. ORIGINALITY. If vehicle is entered as “standard” points will be deducted for significant
non-factory items.
Section 7. UNDERSIDE and WHEELS. The judges will check under wheel arches and visible
suspension items. Fresh grass is ignored; caked-on mud is not! Finish on wheels,
condition of wheel rim, tyre condition, and match, will all be considered.


I pass section 1 as my car is modidied and entered in modifed class. All SE's and SP's are now are considered modified regardless now.(Sorry that was my fault last year for being the only SE:)) Reading that I can put what ever parts I want on it and not get marked down for non-original parts.
And section 7 only talks about condition of the rims and tyres. No where does it say anything about type/brand of rims.


I have done ~1500km's on my new rims and tyres so they are virtually new. Not a single scratch or chip on them. So I feel ripped off to get a 0 when they should really be a 10. Not to mention tyre condition is supposed to be included in the points so did I get 0 for new tyres as well?
I would have put my scratched, pitted and burnt OEM SE rims with near bald achilles tyres on if I knew this would happen. At least they would have got 4-5 out of 10 for still being round.


Did any one else out there get a 0 for non standard wheels and tyres in the modified class?

[rockitman]

Sorry Luke can't help you with the wheel dilemma.
Just went out for a drive with the club.
Great day for top down driving.

Some great old cars there.
Haven't seen a P38 for years.



Drove this yesterday. Unreal!

[Cam Shaft]

I cant see why you should score a 0 if your in the modified class. Like you said, i can understand if you where in the standard group.
But i had wheel troubles myself.
I have the 10th annaversary model NB. They came out from factory with polished rims. The judges nearly deducted points because they thought they where aftermarket. Luckily somebody overheard them talking and corrected them, so i didnt lose points. Lucky he was there at the time. So thanks for that.

If they are going to be a concourse judges, they should atleast know what they are judging.

But other than that, it was a good day and glad the weather held off.

[Luke]

Just some pics of the MX-5's on the day. Took them at lunch so no people walking around and all bonnets and boots are closed.
Noticed there wern't to many NA's on the day.

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[giro-pilot]

hope i did not loose points i got different rims different colour people ask if i had it painted i got a mx5 classic

[Charlie Brown]

Sorry to hear about your wheel marking Luke. I can only assume that the way the revised abbreviated Concours marking system was presented caused confusion amongst the judges when it came to marking the “modified” class cars. I know that I spent 2 hours marking the Show & Shine cars and that the Concours judges were still marking after lunch while everyone else was chatting. It’s a tough life being a judge.

As for your wheels, if the judges were consistent, every car in the modified class with different wheels would have received 0 points, so all’s square.

I’m no longer on the committee but I believe that this Concours was designed as a more casual approach in an attempt to attract more participants, thus it’s combination with a run to the event. The previous Concours only had about 2/3rds of the cars that were there on Sunday, so it achieved that goal.

Jeff, I do know, after previously running the Concours for a number of years, that you need members who own a particular model to judge that model. The problem then arises that you need to have someone else come in to assist judging the judge’s car and when that happens consistency goes out the door.

I’m sure that if enough members attend the AGM and pass their comments along to the incoming committee, they may reconsider the events structure for next year.